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Iowa vs. Oklahoma State Wrestling LIVEGAMEOPENTHREAD

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via thegazette.com

Now it's time for the other Iowa-OSU showdown of the day. I talked all about this meet yesterday; scroll down if you want a refresher course. Now it's time to get out there and take care of business: get a win, get the record, and send a message to the rest of the sport. Go Hawks.

If you live in Iowa, the meet is on Iowa Public Television at 7pm CT. If you live elsewhere, the meet is being televised by video.BTN.com/Hawkeye All Access ($$$).

The standard open thread rules apply: no links to illegal online streams, no porn, no politics, no religion, no slurs, no douchebaggery.

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Simul-following my brother's finals match and Iowa
Best of luck to little bro

The finals are a huge accomplishment. And Iowa always needs help at the upper weights if he can be that good…

Bettendorf is beating Apple Valley going into the finals round
Where at?
Cheesehead tournament (WI)
Ahhh
Devos and Clark are going to be wrestling in this thing
Tyler Clark is going?
Sorry

I am confusing you with high school talk.

Iowa commit Cory Clark is wrestling

Ah, thanks. I don't follow HS at all. I got easily confused there.
I am just a little excited. Sorry again

It is like christmas all over again

Hmm... To get streaming video from BTN or wait until Monday to see it?

That is the question.

You got to see it tonight
That's what I was thinking too

/Whips out AmEx.

Attaboy

Welcome to the degeneration

Fuck and yes.

I was able to connect my TV to my laptop so now I’ve got BHGP on the big screen and the wrestling on the little screen.

Wait.

/Switches screens.

Ok, that’s better.

You should have left BHGP on the big screen in case someone posts naked molerat.
THAT is PRECISELY the reason BHGP should NOT be on the big screen.
Naked molerat demands #ALLOFTHEPIXELS
And now I'm irreversibly jealous

I could probably accomplish that, but I’m terrible with tech. I assume it’s just an HDMI straight connection?

Actually - with the MacBook Pro I've got, I've got to use a thingy that connects my display out to a DVI adapter and then a cable from the DVI adapter to the HDMI input.

Such a hassle to have an Apple sometimes.

/blatant humblebrag.

Listening to Simon & Garfunkel waiting for this shindig to start

Pretty much the opposite of music that will get me pumped. Time to find something else.

Last meet I attended in Carver

Gambrall (I think) came out to a song from the Lion King

And a Jay-Z song was on

With my hands up, they’re playin my song!

/Jay, not Miley. But the Miley song totally rawks

Yep, he used to come out to "The Lion Sleeps Tonight."

Which was… jarring.

and completely awesome, obviously
aweembaway aweembaway

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

UI scheduling should be more sympathetic

To those of us living elsewhere and having to stay awake til 3 or 4 A.M. just to catch the liveblogs of these meets, especially when I’m spending both nights of my weekend doing it!

You must be in... Asia? Eastern Europe?
France actually

It’s only 2 right now, but will be lateeee by the end of the meet

Ah, okay.

I was trying to figure out where eight hours ahead would be.

Mr. Conn? Head?
Currently in CHA

Place is buzzing. Former Olympians introduced at center of mat, Lincoln McIlravy and Joe Williams among them. It’s a sea of black. Place is at near capacity. Here’s to Carver Magic!

#TeamPizza
Crucial question: Domino's or Pizza Hut?
Neither.
Papa John's?

No, Tombstone!?!

But Domino's ads say they no longer suck

“We knew we sucked, we apologize!”

I’m wondering when Pizza Hut does the same

No shit. I actually like Domino's new pizza.

But there’s a local place here in Houston that kicks ass at the pizza game. Unfortunately, pizza is no longer conducive to my personal wellness plans. :(

Domino's new recipe, as far as I can tell:

Step 1: Make the same stuff we made before.
Step 2: Dunk it all in a giant vat of garlic and butter.
Step 3: Call it new and improved.

You forgot Step 4

PROFIT

I also forgot Step 5:

Diarrhea

I went local.
Is anyone listening to All-Access on the radio?

More precisely, is it actually working for anyone?

Hooray, working now.
I'm on BTDN and it's showing a clock.

35 sec left
no

30 sec left
no

20 sec left!

I have the video in one tab and the Grace/Ironside audio in the other.
where can I find them?
BTN and Hawkeye All Access. $$ required, unfortunately.
Oh, I am on BTN
Hawkeye All Access

I get access to that thru my BTN.com subscription. So I just log in thru the All-Access section on Hawkeyesports, load the video feed in one tab and the audio feed (it has the OSU logo on it) in the other.

Anybody else's BTN.com

feed just showing a clock counting?

Yep

That’s normal for now.

sweet jesus

i was getting worried

They're actually fairly anal retentive about starting at precisely the time listed.
YAYYYYY FOR Promptness!
Is Andy Hamilton doing us all a favor?

A quick google search turned up nothing and I love his real time updates.

WOOOO IPTV IN TEXAS!
In Lubbock no less
Houston for moi.
Say hello to Arian Foster for me
I would, but I don't know who that is.
Houston RB. Unique cat.
Tim Johnson and Gable doing the call in IPTV
And jealous again.

I’m solely on BTN.com

They are announcing for BTN.com
Ooh, excellent!

Just turned off my music now, my bad

Hipster.
You're confusing me with Ross' music catalog
They should be doing the call on that one.

BTN.com is just streaming the IPTV broadcast

Awesome

I am watching IPTV in Alaska

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME!!!!!
I do think it's dumb to use tournament rankings for teams in a dual meet.
SHIT. Is this a fucking full house?
looks damn close

probably some empty seats up near the top, though

Okay

this is an interesting starting weight. Let’s GO BOBBY

Is it just me or is that a Skinny 285'er we've got?

I mean, relatively speaking.

He is tall as shit
Also, he is a little light
Gable is awesome with the geography and anthropology lessons
If a Russian gets a Russian tie, is it just called a tie
I think it is referred to as "Like kissing your comrade"
Shit shit shit
Way to fight Bobby
Goddamn commies!
Russian Okie?

Shit!

Well that's a shitty start
Z is dangerous
HOLY COW. Brand's eyebrows are high. INTENSITY!
ugh, couldn't even get the escape before the end of the period
Shit that was quick
Does the guy behind the bench in the cowboy hat always wear eye black?

(can’t remember his name at the moment)

and a reversal 2 seconds into the 2nd period
Come on Bobby. Get Fucking Mad
Wrong sport. That's Roundball.

Proper terminology: GET FUCKING INTENSE!

Bobby needs to fight for the decision
Well, how about not getting major'd Bobby?
Need Bobby to do something here
Telford is better than this

He will wrestle this guy tougher in the future

HWT: Gelogaev MAJ DEC (10-2) Telford

OSU 4-0

Shitfuck

Bobby looked awful.

damn

Getting caught early

got him skittish

Welp.

at least boring hwt is out of the way?

Well that sucked.

Let’s go McD.

Ramos up first.
Typo by IPTV in the scoreboard

It’s McD

GADDAMMIT I was like what? When did they go from 285 to 133?
Yeah I wondered the same thing, but

this isn’t the first time I’ve seen the IPTV scoreboard list the wrong people

Admittedly, I haven't seen Iowa wrestle lately so I don't know what everyone looks like.

Tiny white guys all look alike, right?

I don't think they had showed McD yet

at least I hadn’t seen him until after they took down the scoreboard. It didn’t help that the announcer was flustered by the mistake.

That is most decidedly not the ideal start.
I almost feel like Rasing might have been better.

Wouldn’t have won, but don’t think he’d have gotten major’d.

NOW LISTEN

This ain’t no make believe!

Come on, McD, future endeavor that guy!

Does anybody know

Did DSJ weigh in? Is he a possibility to come out if we look like we’re in dire circumstances?

I don't think Brands would do that
But Tyrone Brands might!

Whoa…. crossing the streams there. No more of that.

All about Nationals baby
He's on the bench in sweats

But I think if he was going he’d be back stretching, working out, etc

Okie State has a pretty simple gameplan.

attack when favored, defend when not.

Iowa also tends to have a pretty simple gameplan

Attack.

Here comes the professional fishing
Keep backing up Morrison

you fuck

Stalling...good
Morrison is done
this is where Metcalf would td and cut a guy like 8 times in one minute
Or Ramos

I remember him being in a close match this year until putting up about 12-15 on a guy in the last period

That guy flat out quit
yeah that was great

of course it is much more difficult against the OSU style

Jeesh, I wish I were there. Looks like a wild atmosphere!
Stalling point
whew, needed that after hwt
Morrison is used up

You will never find a decent husband giving up your legs like that Morrison

Morrison never even threatened a score
I wonder if they will show the exhibition match too? EEE.
Heavy hands Tony
Glenbard North

sounds like it should be a city in Skyrim

This made me laugh so hard I spit
Do you think it would catch on if I started calling Ramos

the “Jarl of Glenbard”?

Or would they just look at me like I’m an idiot?

Go for it!

Just as funny, if not moreso, than “GetErDun.”

Best defense is offense Tony
Oliver isn't really working anything specific
oliver

so slick

I am worried about Tony getting under him
make it to the third Ramos

Oliver may run out of gas

Gable is threatening viewers with armbars

Ha

Good Tony, Good

Up and out now

STALLING!

Was that one?

That seemed early movement
octopus oliver

ridiculous

Should let honey badger at him then
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

TWO BITCHES!!!!
BOOM!
RIDE TONY DAMMIT!!!
I LOVE THE INTENSITY IN CHA!
IT'S INTENSE!
fucking love how excited Gable is
Andy Hamilton
This place is going crazy
AWESOME!!

RIDING TIME DOWN TO 59

Eerily reminiscent of the clock disaster at Hilton
This is fucking great!

Listen to Gable! Love it.

I want to hear Gable

Pleaseee

Come on TONY

THere it is

If Ramos doesn't get the win here it's a fucking joke
Oliver has to be gassed
SHIT I SCREAMED OUT LOUD SEVERAL TIMES.
Gable is jacked
he could hop on the mat right now

and take them both at the same time.

GIF That movement by Brands!
THAT WAS AMAZING
Yeah, that was a ton of hip action.

If not tonight, hopefully they show it again on Monday so that more people will have a shot to gif it.

OMG CAUTION

That’s gonna be huge

Shit

that looks bad

Holy Shit!!!!!

Never, ever saw that coming!

TONY FUCKING RAMOS
ROSS

in OT by a penalty point. We have seen that before

I've more than seen it, I've lived it.

I won a college match (DIII) on cautions in double OT. That was when the whole OT was sudden victory. It was more weird than anything because it took both me and my opponent a second to realize that the match was over. Then I was like ‘fucking right’, because it put me in the tourney finals. It was a pretty anti-climactic way to win an intense match.

Trice beat Telford last week in the Midlands on a locked hands point
best match I have seen in a long time
AWESOME!

AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!

Beer me!

RAMOS!

“this should be shown worldwide!”—-Dan Gable.

Did he really say that?
over and over again
yep

more than once

By force if necessary
this atmosphere

THIS ATMOSPHERE!

That match was critical
I'm losing my mind.

I had to stifle all excitement during that match while I was feeding my daughter. Once I set her down for bed I nearly jumped thru the roof.

Montell with poor leg defense again
I cannot believe Montell had the stones to make that "dominate everyone" comment and then wrestle like he has all year.
Montell looks sluggish
Must have had to use the machete to clear the way for the team.
That was a great quote
Montell looks like Montell

sigh

This is some sloppy shit
Marion absolutely needs to understand the importance of this match.
He is exhausted
Psh

its not like the regular season matters. we are just waiting for march montellness. or would montell madness be better? march marionness?

Needs better conditioning
And less machete swinging?
Get it going MM

You can’t lose after Ramos and his effort.

They are gassed
They gave him 2 backpoints?!

HOLY MIRACLE WIN.

He deserved them
Can't believe he was able to hold on with that arm.
Barely

That was a poor effort by Montell

That was garbage
Anyone can dominate end-to-end

The great ones do it with style. Or something. Right.

Sloppy sloppy match
OSU video guy in disbelief

was hilarious

Damn!
The person controlling the scoreboard must be new at this.
Whew thank you

MM had me really worried there for awhile. He needs Fran on his ass to get him motivated this year. He should not be the type of wrestler that needs a takedown in the last 30 seconds to win most of his matches.

i got to think that having Brands on his ass ain't no picnic
Even Fran is afraid of the Brands boys!
hell, i'm scared of the Brands bros

and i’m just watching it on tv

Tom Frands

what a scary thought.

interesting ending

that seems like a matchup where if they meet three times in a year, Kelly gets him the third time.

He needs better shots
FINALLY!!!

Brent Metcalf has come BACK to Iowa City!

Kelly gets it here
Keep the updates coming...

so Ramos and Marion wrestled so far?

285, 125, 133 and now at 149.
Telford was majored.

McD got a major to even the score. Ramos won in OT by riding out Oliver and Marion won with miracle nearfall points.

10-4 team score.

How did Kelly get his second point?
He didn't

scoreboard screw up

I don't even see a scoreboard. :(
They've been having a little trouble with it.

I think they pulled it so they can try to get a better handle on it.

Was Kelly countered for both TDs?
Yeah

parks isn’t making anything happen

There is a shot

shit

shit, don't get majored
He is a tough kid

I have confidence

6-2? right?
6-3
Third period now?
yep
oh

7-2

Oh right orange guy got an escape at the start of 2. righto.
Lance Palmer?

What’s he doing out there?

lol I thought the exact same thing when I saw "orange guy"
Tweet says 7-2

And Gable made it sound like Parks has RT as well.

Essentially 8-3 after the Kelly escape.

Parks is watching the clock

hate this guy

Yeah, this is an awful style of wrestling.

Glad we only have to watch OkieState once a year.

Kelly tried for the homerun at the end there
You guys are doing great filling in the info.

My wife is a little surprised at my energy/anxiousness. But then again, she’s never been to an Iowa v OSU duel at CHA. Fuck, I wish I was there, or at least in Iowa to catch IPTV and Gable. Thanks again.

5 weights left

Does Iowa have 3 wins in them?

165 is must-win.

184 is winnable.

Then we need upsets.

I think good EL has a good chance

If he shows up against Perry in his first match cutting weight, he could definitely pull it out.

Yeah, EL has a shot. It's just not a match we're favored in.
Evans needs to work towards a major
I'm still fired up by that Ramos win.

Unbelievable match. Really great stuff.

That was awesome.
Intermission

Iowa leads the team score 10-7.

INTERMISSION SCORE UPDATE

HWT: Gelogaev MAJ DEC (10-2) Telford (OSU 4-0)
125: McD MAJ DEC (14-4) Morrison (tied, 4-4)
133: Ramos DEC (4-3 OT) Oliver (Iowa 7-4)
141: Marion DEC (9-7) Kindig (Iowa 10-4)
149: Parks DEC (8-3) Kelly (Iowa 10-7)

Beautiful.

Thanks.

IS metcalf in blue?
Yes.
I realized my question was moot when I saw the other dude.

/I swear – not racist. Just powers of observation.

LOL I love how Gable is peeking over his shoulder. I assume he's checking out the exhibition match?
Dude's an addict
I would rather watch the match than listen to this pitch

good looking takedown there

LOL. I love how the cameras panned out a little so we could watch the wrestling as they are talking.
that Dan Gable poster is sweet
$150 for that? Hmmm.
fund raising
I KNOW.

I was like… hmmmmm… That’s a decent thank you gift.

I should have said – All that in thanks for $150? Hmmm…

Exactly what I was thinking.

$150 for $1 of stuff.

You get a signed Gable poster.

That’s pretty cool.

COME ON BTDN!
Mine just went back to the clock
We Texans get onery if we don't get our eeeelectronic stories
Guy on InterMat stream said that there are no ties in college wrestling as of this year

And if it is tied at the end, the visiting team gets the win. Is that correct?

No ties

not sure about tie breaker

I can't imagine

They have set tie breakers that don’t include home or away

Yeah, I misread that

Wins, followed by falls and tech falls

and then?

this could tie on all of those

# of Dan Gables should be next

but it probably won’t be

# of Brands bros
We all know

That if # of Dan Gables > 1, then the universe is in for a serious ass kicking

Followed by total match points

And finally, first takedown

Apparently much more complex

Tie-Breaker System for Dual Meets

In dual-meet competition, if the teams have identical scores, the following tie-breaking system shall be used to determine the winner:

a. The team whose opposing wrestlers or team has been penalized the greater number of team points for flagrant or unsportsmanlike conduct shall be declared the winner.

The team whose opposing wrestlers or team personnel have been penalized the greater number of team point deductions shall be declared the winner.

c. The team whose opposing wrestlers were penalized the greater number of match points for unsportsmanlike conduct during a match shall be declared the winner.

d. The team having won the greater number of matches (including forfeits) shall be declared the winner.

e. The team having accumulated the greater number of points for falls, defaults, forfeits, or disqualifications shall be declared the winner.

f. The team having the greater number of points for technical falls shall be declared the winner.

g. The team having the greater number of points for major decisions shall be declared the winner.

h. The team having the greater number (total match points) of first point(s) shall be declared the winner.

The team having the greater number of points for near-falls shall be declared the winner.

j. The team having the greater number of takedowns shall be declared the winner.

k. The team having the greater number of reversals shall be declared the winner.

l. The team having the greater number of escapes shall be declared the winner.

m. The team whose opponent has been penalized more often for stalling will be declared the winner.

n. The team whose opponent has been warned more often for stalling will be declared the winner.

o. The team whose opponent has the greater number of points for all other infractions (i.e. false starts)

If none of the above resolve the tie, a flip of a disk will determine the winner.

Upon determining the winning team by use of the tiebreaking system, a single team point shall be added to the prevailing team. The method of recording the score in breaking team ties shall be the score followed by the letter of the criterion that broke the tie.

that's detailed. Let's just assume the Hawks lose on a tie and go for the straight win.
I would have to agree
Jesus!

Who thought it was a good idea to add super-complexity to this? Some refs can’t even get the simple shit right, now. And, while I’m sure there are many intelligent wrestling fans out there, is anyone going to be able to figure this out at the arena without some serious crib-notes?

takedowns is one of them

majors I am sure follow TFs

so did Metcalf just win in the background?
Don't know

I am in BTN purgatory

IPTV said they will have highlights after these intermission matches.

I’ll try and catch it and put it on here for those outside Iowa.

yeah metcalf won
WANT SHIRT

SHIRT IS AWESOME SHIRT

That is the shirt you need if Gable ever leads a revolt against the Romans

and then is eventually defeated and faced with crucifixtion

I'd usually say anything with Gable is awesome,

but that shirt is almost blasphemous.

I’m not Dan Gable. I’m not (that) awesome.

I guess BTN got tired of listening to IPTV ask for money
I never tire of Gable doing anything

I would watch the guy rake his leaves

Listening to him argue with his old pal while still wearing his microphone was amazing.
"I was right, he just didn't want to admit it"
How awesome would it be

to see Gable slowly, intensely, rake the leaves into a big pile, and then see him stretch them into submission?

That's a pretty great photo of Brands, but $150 sure seems like a stretch.
how much longer?
Still another exhibition match going on now.
I'm slightly surprised to see them bring Mocco back to Iowa City during Okie State weekend.

That can’t have gone over very well.

Mixed reaction, apparently
He did spend some time in the room recently

People should get over it

Never!

One black eye isn’t enough. Give him two!

I think I saw on twitter that there was some booing.
Goddamn Benedict.

They trotted him out there>

VIDEO BACK
and gone again

urge to kill rising again

Let's Go Nick Moore
An upset here would be nice

Bring it, Nick.

Whoa, punched square in the face.
Power double for Okie State.

Moore just got caught inside the circle.

2-0 Pokes.

Instant escape for Moore.

2-1

Moore can beat this guy
quick escape from the reset

2-1

I think Moore got a quick escape to start the second

2-2 mid-way thru the 2nd.

My Dad's at UIHC right now...

..and he just texted that his nurse keeps updating the scores for him. Awesome.

Hope he's OK
Seconded.

Or at least recovering/getting better.

that would have been a bad TD call.

Good job calling it off

Nice shot Moore

Now finish

Moore consistently getting in on a single, and unable to finish.

TD OkSt and escape for Moore. 4-3 OSU.

You all may have discussed this already,

but do all matches have 2 refs now?

They usually do it that way
White out
It's a Black out.

Oh, I see.

OSU has :38 of RT, chooses down.

Moore lets him out after a 5 or so second ride. 5-3 OSU.

Just a minute left

Moore needs to finish a shot.

Was in deep on a single, but won't be able to finish inside the circle.

Now has just 35 seconds to get a takedown.

Such a good shot
Fuck that

damnit

Throw-by and Moore is done.

Nick got too aggressive and he paid for it.

Can't blame him, down 2, with 20 seconds left.

And against an OkSt wrestler.

Yeah, just needs to keep his wits about him and maintain his balance.

Solid effort, unfortunate result.

157: White DEC (7-4) Moore

Tied up, 10-10

Moore's lack of experience was a killer
just finish those shots and he gets a win
0-for-3 wasn't it?

Looked like the better wrestler, but couldn’t find a way to finish.

yeah, I think it was 3
Better wrestlers finish shots.

His attacks weren’t crisp enough

Fuck you Albert White

DSJ is going to murder your back pedaling ass

come on, Evans. rip this dude
Bailey is a fuck
He does a lot of funky shit that works in freestyle
Evans wearing elf shoes?
I love that twinkle in Brands's eye.

Like he’s angry he can’t be out there wrestling tonight.

Suck on that Bailey
Thank God.

Two points, Evans.

Evans with 24 seconds of RT in the second

Before getting too high and lett Bailey out. 0-1 Bailey, but Evans is in deep…and finishes on the scramble.

2-1 Evans, :45 left in the 2nd.

Here comes the pain from above
he really is dominant there. Savagely so.
beautiful scramble TD
Bailey always tries that throw through

I hate that

Evans has the full minute of RT, now.

Needs to pile it on with :30 left in the 2nd.

He is mean on top
No idea what the final count was, though.

Doesn’t look like he’ll hold on to it.

And he does. Big ride for Evans there.
I think he gave it back, after it dipped under a minute advantage.

But then, escape Evans, and a takedown for two more.

And now, Evans gets the riding time back. 4-1

that knee looked ridiculous
Reversal for Evans. Turn him!!!!
Ref gave Evans a reversal instead of an escape and TD.

Evans has also rebuilt his RT advantage. Up 4-1 plus RT with 25 left.

Evans is looking strong
If he can get polished he'll be an absolute beast.
Didn't even look like he was breathing at the end.
Don't fall for any stupid orange shit, and we get the W.

Evans wins, 5-1

I love how he's basically driving the guy's face into the mat
that's right push his face in the mat

Iowa Wrestling. 13-10 with 3 matches to go.

165: Evans DEC (5-1) Bailey

Iowa up, 13-10

Big win for Evans.

13-10 Iowa thru 7 (?)

we need a win from EL, right?
Mark Perry's little bro against Ethan Lofthouse.
Did the entire Perry family grow up in Stillwater?

How in the hell did Iowa take a Perry from the Pokes’ backyard?

Because John Smith is a puffy-eared dickhead?
BTN can suck my wang ND vs Minn instead of this match BULLSHIT!
It will be on delay on BTN, Monday at 7 pm ct.
Nice Shot EL

FInish it

Call the backing out!
We got a no call in Montell's match on that
Pull that fleeing fuck back on the mat!
I like Mark Perry, but I don't like his little brother.

Am I allowed to do that?

I like Mark Perry, but I don't like his uncle.

So, yes, you are allowed.

Neutral pin?

COME ON EL

ALMOST.

Instead it’s a 0-0 period.

That would have been yuuuge

That needs to be awarded points.
That was interesting

Wow.

how huge would that have been
He probably should have been working harder for two rather than six
I think that's what he was thinking, but he may have been swayed by crowd noise.
Having this thread my only source of info is so confusing

and awesome.

Seconded.
I think someone said flowrestling is doing a stream or something?

But why leave BHGP?

They can't be streaming this

BTN owns it

Well, IPTV first but BTN bought the rights, I believe.
Maybe audio stream of running commentary by flowrestling writers/bloggers?
For a few years now this dual has been shown live on ESPN

I wish that was the case this year

But then you wouldn't have Gable or Tim Johnson?
Or does Johnson work for ESPN in those situations?
Actually, this thread makes WAY more sense than the radio broadcast with Ironside.

CHA is PANDEMONIUM tonight. Screaming, spitting, jumping up and down… and it isn’t just the coaching staff tonight, it’s EVERYONE!

It's awesome

And I love the SBnation app when it’s working

EL is looking pretty decent
yes. One TD might win this match if he can do it.
Oh, shit, Perry got an escape early in the second to take a 1-0 lead.

Just 15 seconds left.

Why did he do neutral?
Just thinking the same thing
Perry is nails in the ride
Lofthouse took neutral when down 1-0?
EL chooses neutral to start the third. Still down 0-1.

Not interested in being under Perry, I guess.

can you win a match by running away for 3 turns?
Get that takedown, EL
I've no idea what EL's best move is, but he needs to go it IMMEDIATELY.
BOOM!
Don't get desperate
:30 left, EL gets the TD!

Has to hold on, or avoid the reversal. 10 left.

Perry gives up the reversal attempt and earns the escape.

sudden victory.

Perry is tired
yes he is. We have a shot
Nervous...

What are the expectations for Wagner and Gambrall?

Gambrall is wrestling a stud

Iowa needs this win

EL in again but gets stuffed

They go out of bounds,5 seconds left. OT coming.

Need an escape, EL has not shown the ability to ride Perry out.
EL looks gassed.
I'm gassed and my fat ass is on the couch!
2nd caution for Perry on the restart.
Perry sinks in both hooks and EL is ridden
Yuck. Has to ride Perry out or quick escape and TD
EL absolutely wiped out.

Doesn’t look good.

trouble.
TD Saints
not to be mean, but common man, no one cares

come back in 30

Can't let him out at this point.

Just :18 left.

Escape Perry, and Perry immediately shoots.

EL loses in OT. Perry then gets a bit crazy and absolutely should be docked a point.

probably should be
Fuck.

Okie State style for you.

And now some brou-haha after the match between the wrestlers.

Fuck off Perry!
174: Perry DEC (3-2) Lofthouse

Tied up, 13-13

Brands had some great faces there
If anyone has BTN and a tuner on their computer they should have some primo footage to catch on Monday night.
pushing and shoving afterwards
EL pushed at Perry's head after the OT period as he was being taken down.

Perry then got hot and shoved back. Both HCs met at the center of the mat to collect their wrestler.

Intense stuff.

EL pushed because Perry drove him into the mat well after the whistle
Yeah, I was just trying to give a lil PbP for those out of state.
Tough loss. We're in deep shit for the dual win
Perry drove after the whistle

well after the whistle

They went with Fahler here
Or wagner

I can’t tell them apart

that's racist
Why does the non-descript wrestler have to be white?
Albert White?
I'm not black like Barry White, I am white like Frank Black is
Because 75%+ of the people in wrestling are white? I dunno.
Gable:

“You can go into the hallway, but it’s REALLY happening right here!”

New t-shirt.

13 All with 2 to go
13 all in the team score.
Carfino's Way

was asking for bonus points.

I didn’t realize how right she would be about their importance.

the lofthouse Perry match just became a falls count anywhere match.

be sure to check the elevator security footage after the meet.

Awesome!
I'm picturing that

Rock vs Mankind match at halftime of the Super Bowl that one year, with the popcorn machine and all that other stuff.

How do we like Vinnie's chances here?
Even
It would be nice to have Gambrall here, but then again 197 might go heavy to them
I think we would give up a pin at 97

if Gambrall is here

I went to high school with Wagner. Very decent wrestler.

Great story. Med school and all. I’m impressed.

12th year senior

Jess Settles Scholarship!

Actually, he's a redshirt senior, if I recall correctly

1st year of med school.

Kidding!

I root for all north iowans.

As somebody who doesn't follow that closely

Are the stall rules making a difference? The way it sounds here, there’s still too much stalling

Not much of a difference

the stalling hasn’t been too bad really

Well,

I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who made sure that the rules had minimal actual effect on the mat.

For as awesome as we think the Iowa style is, there are just as many people who love the Okie State style, calling it “gamesmanship.” But, those people are retards.

We benefit from non-stalling calls often enough
er, stalling no-calls
At this point a tie would be a win just to throw the streak in OSU's face.

Especially since Iowa will likely extend it much further if they can get out today.

they'd win the criteria, i think
there is no tie, it would go to criteria
andy hamilton said in liveblog that as of now he thinks osu has tiebreaker
who's left for us

and how do we stack up?

What are the total match points at this point?
If my math is good, at intermission total match points were tied at 32.
It has been a close dual. Tony's win has given us the shot we needed. Come on Grant!
If Iowa loses by 2 points they lose the tiebreaker.

Match points currently at 47-46 Iowa.

finally got the point for stalling!
I love how he's shooting so much.
Reversal with 20 seconds left.

Wagner takes a 4-3 lead.

WAGNER WINS.

16-13 IOWA going into the final match!!!!!!!

AAARGGGHHH

BTDN!!!

holy shit that was close
Yes!

reversal.

Wagner wins.

wow. Twin reversals.

What a finish. Great win by Wagner!

Holy shit!
184: Wagner DEC (4-3) McNeil

Iowa up, 16-13

HOLY SHIT. I AM PROUD OF Wagner!
I'm shaking!

But that may be the cold…

Wrestle better Grant
Did the OK St guy just swing?
Sure as hell did.
Let's finish this hawks!
What is it with OSU wrestlers throwing haymakers?
Simple baiting.

They know that the second guy usually gets the worse punishment.

Brent Metcalf would have got medieval on those bitch moves.

Did they say Rosholt is a former HWT?
yes they did. Doesnt look like it, does he?
No,

I assumed they meant high school HWT. But if they meant college HWT, then no, he really doesn’t look like it.

They said he got down to 97 after the Russian got there
gambrall looks overpowered

its a very tense feeling

shit, so GG needs to win this
46-45 OSU in match points, per IPTV
Well, now I'm not sure if my match was good.

I had it 32 all in the first half and Iowa up 15-14 thru 4 in the second half.

Or spelling ;)
yeah. I'm looking back and I've no idea which score i got wrong.
Let's hope your math is better than the public television guy's math
time?
2nd period just started.

Gambrall down 3-1 and Rosholt has a full minute of RT, as well.

So basically winner of this match wins the dual?
yes
assuming IPTV is correct on total match points
KJ Pilcher just tweeted

48-47 Iowa for match points.

That's the third different tally.
but two out of three favor Iowa!
It's like boxing!
but we're fucked because he has to get within a point either way. and he's not doing that
Yeah, really odd.

Even if GG loses by just one point, I’ve no idea what the next TB is.

Doesn’t look like it’s going to matter. GG is down 3.

God I hope that's right
IPTV still says OSU up one.

There have been no falls or tech falls.

yep. and GG isn't doing so much so far
"Gambrall just hangs out too much"

“If you’re good, might as well wrestle”

Work something Grant
About to give up a TD
Nope. Broke up by the ref.
Gambrall looks like he's out muscled here
Come ON! Hell, you have to do something!
Maybe the Iowa bench thinks they have the tiebreaker?

Since nobody seems to be able to figure it out.

Meh.

I think they aren’t worried about that, They just wanted Gambrall to win, but he wasn’t ready yet.

Take the win, Gambrall, and don't make us worry about stupid tiebreakers.
Grant's fucked
Fuck. Big trouble.
TD , Rosholt.

Fuck!

Let’s go, Grant. Get tough!

are we doomed?
1 min left.

GG with a lazy shot and is taken down again. OSU is going to win on tiebreakers.

Maybe he'll get majored and make it legit

Crap

they are gonna win because of a fucking tiebreaker rule.

what the fuck?

Crud. Rosholt looks good.
fucking fuck fuck
Wow. stupid irony.
Why are they announcing that during the match that's still going??????
That announcement was ridiculous.

Horrible timing. Even the wrestlers stopped to listen.

Announcing what?

I missed it.

that criteria would decide the dual outcome in case of a tie
That if the meet ended in a tie,

they’d go to the scorebook for the criteria tiebreaker.

The tiebreaker rules.

They came over the PA with the rules with another 25 seconds or so left in the match.

well this sucks the big one
Cannot believe the dual streak is going to die because of tiebreakers.

What’s with American’s inability to accept a tie as a result?

good question
Too close to sharing.

We hate sharing.

With the exception of a couple of guys

I didn’t think the Hawks wrestled all that well.

Yep.

We don’t seem to be that great this time of year.

Which is okay, if we get our shit together by February/March.

In fairness,

they could probably just add another weight to help prevent ties.

Let's just go back

And retroactively figure out what the streaks are. If we’re being penalized for tie no longer being an option, they should have to adjust them all

Well may as well make a new streak.
Hell yes!

Fuck’em. We’ll do it.

And we can make it a winning streak

instead of an unbeaten streak

I'm in favor of that.
197: Rosholot DEC (8-4) Gambrall

Tied 16-16

OKST should win via tiebreakers.

That tiebreaker list is dense

Wasn’t there something about penalty points in there? Wouldn’t that favor Iowa?

There were no penalty points
should've been
or could've, i guess
YES. Should've been a point deducted from Perry.

That would have ensured that we got it.

I would rather not win that way
Stalling points, however, yes.
they didn't get penalized for anything
And now the Saints are destroying the Lions.

Up 24-14.

Damn, I just saw a serious hottie in the front row at the Superdome.

Like, wearing a boustier or something.

did you bring your beads?
This team won't win shit in March w/o a lot of improvement
except Ramos

who will win the WHOLE FUCKING THING BABY WOOOOOO

I was impressed with a couple of wrestlers not named Ramos or McD.
You talking Iowa, or OSU?

Or both?

Iowa

Who gives two fucks about OSU here, Chazz?

Easy, big fella.

/says even bigger fella.

Iowa sports: we shit the bed when you bother paying attention.
No fucking shit!
Cap One Bowl disagrees.
Oooh, SEVEN FUCKING YEARS AGO
I feel like Orange Bowl would be a better example
Yeah.

Iowa: Love it or Leave it!

Chin up, guys, even though we lose when it matters now, we won TWO YEARS AGO!

Hip hip hooray!

Lose when it matters lol

Its the first loss by Iowa wrestling in a dual in how long?

The last big dual they won was either PSU or Minnesota last year.
The basketball team found a way to win huge games.

Hoping for a win today was fair given the last week, but being truly angry about the loss seems unfair.

That said, they absolutely shit the bed, so there is reason for some disappointment.

I don't mind losing today, although getting whipped by 30 was painful.

But, seriously, when’s the last time Iowa got a big win in a sport where it WASN’T a surprise?

We have performance anxiety when the spotlight is on us and it’s frustrating.

Michigan this year
Or last year's Insight Bowl, at least I wasn't surprised.
I suppose we can agree to disagree, but

we were an underdog and coming off three straight losses to end the season.

I was more kidding about that one.

Just saying I wasn’t that shocked because of our bowl game skillz

Surprise.

We were coming off the Minnesota loss.

we were the upset special for every announcer
I could maybeee agree with you about performance anxiety but

in general terms, recently we have not been that great at football or basketball. So normally spotlight games are against better teams, hence more surprising. Right?

We haven't had many opportunities lately, it's true.
You're right

the world is totally ending because we lost to a pretty good team. SHUT DOWN THE UNIVERSITY FIRE EVERYONE BURN IT TO THE GROUND.

Plenty to be frustrated about
Iowa sports: where being mentally weak happens.
Albert Young (and about 200 wrestlers from the past) disagrees.
Gotta agree with Chazz here.

Today was not a good day in CHA, but I think you’re overstating things, Ross.

Obviously there are counter-examples

There were too many guys who didn’t wrestle like they needed to wrestle today.

This meet was there for the taking – we let them have it.

I agree with that,

but I don’t think you can call the whole U of I athletic program “mentally weak” because of it.

I'll take your word for it on tonight's match.

Couldn’t see it myself, but the thread suggests a lot of places where we underperformed.

In a meet like this you need to see guys nut-up and go for it

that didn’t really happen.

Iowa State and Okie State are two duals that make Hawkeye legends. It was ready made for a couple of guys and they let it slip through their fingers.

God that was a lame effort

@ 197

Not a good day

In CHA

anything official yet on the tiebreaker?
It's official. OSU win. And that sucks.
OKST wins 17-16 on total match points criteria.
This should be like adding bowl game touchdowns retroactively for records.

Ok St during their streak were allowed to tie. This rule is horse shit!
/Will Ferrell’d

or rather Brennan Huff'd
OkieState fans standing behind the commentary table

Appear to be waiting to get Gable’s autograph.

Well, if they like wresting

then that makes a whole lot of sense.

Lofthouse should have won

Gambrell looked like shit. There’s your dual meet.

i had a feeling EL loosing that stallfest killed it for us

Gambrall switching to 197……hows that working out for ya pal?

What prompted his change anyway?
stupidity?

he was injured and found it easier to go to 197 instead of 184, which has turned out to be a really dumb move since he isnt strong enough for 197

There isn't much else at 197 either

Maybe he’s taking one for the team?

on more than one occasion Brands has said he doesnt give a shit about "team"

and that team wins would come from individual success. since thats his way of doing things, the “take one for the team” idea doesnt make much sense.

OK, maybe he just likes eating Twinkies then
He looks leaner than last year,

but still not super-toned.

He’s definitely got conditioning work to do.

I don't think we know enough about this situation to label him "stupid."

Minnesota just had a kid retire because of concussions.

I heard that he's weighing in at 187 right now.

And that Brands has said that 184 is still in the mix for him. It’s early in the season and although it would have been very nice to win last night, Brands still coaches for the postseason and looks at duals as training/proving ground.

Either way we’re going to have a hole at one of the weights, my guess is that hole will be at 197 by the time the postseason rolls around.

My theory is that maybe he enjoys the slightly slower pace of 197 while he’s still getting over the concussion. I was also told that he has beaten several of the top guys currently at 197 while in high school so maybe he thought he would have an easier go of it at 197. He’s learning a lesson though, weight makes a big difference.

Also, I don’t believe he is working with Doyle currently. The wrestling team has leaned on Doyle a few times in the past. If Gambrall really wants to stay at 197 (and it sounds like it’s entirely his choice as of right now) we may see them utilize Doyle.

That was the match

I told my wife when he wasn’t able to score in that first go down on the mat that it was going to cost Iowa. She didn’t care though.

What was he before? He was being a lame wrestler
Last year's dual against OKSt.

Since that was a draw, what was the criteria behind that draw? Did it come down to total match points or what?

there were ties back then
The no-ties rule is new this year.

It was just a run-of-the-mill tie last year.

what was the rationale

Behind this rule? It doesn’t affect the individuals. It’s like it was created solely to affect the unbeaten streak

Because AMERICA DEMANDS A WINNER
This is my best guess.

It’s the same reason that most Americans hate soccer and used to hate hockey.

To be fair

Im pretty sure most Americans still hate hockey

We give every freaking kid a participation trophy, but we won't let adults tie
Occupy NCAA headquarters.
It already has one

Everyone ever is 2nd to Gable. America demands weekly 1st losers

It's a new rule this year
This is the first year of no draws.
That's awful

That makes me sick

if we have to lose, whatever

but losing a meet because we didn’t score more match points is unacceptable when we are Iowa.

Megatron catches a Stafford armpunt at the 2 yard line.

Detroit first and goal.

He turned around late, luckily Stafford threw it 55 yards upward
/sighs

/takes off BHGP jersey

NEVER GRADUATE!!!
Neither wins nor losses should feel like ties. Only ties should feel like ties.

Which is why there should be ties

Especially in a sport that is only barely a team sport.
Thanks all, have a great night. Time to start a new streak.
And the worst Iowa sports year in recent history just rolls on...
What?

Were you not around for 06 or 07?

I fully expected Stafford to come up injured
Hilarious fake run for Detroit and Stafford knocks over the pylon just before his knee hits the turf.

Looks like a TD to me, but it will be reviewed.

W
Was he touched anyway as he dove? I didn't catch it.
This is bullshit

Which is why I will celebrate it by putting things into me that will produce a huge pile of my own.

the only two guys not getting yelled at are Ramos and McD

every other Hawkeye should be ashamed for either losing or just not scoring like they should have

Except V.Wagner.

He actually exceeded my expectations.

Represent!
The 157 match

was frustrating watching Moore shoot multiple times getting the single leg and not following through for the TD

This COMPLETELY changes the tenor of my binge drinking
Are we turning this thread into a Ham'Dam so Ross doesn't have to takeover the entire FanPost list?
I was itching to see it happen, actually

Ross, he dedicated

I really wish people would post FanPosts.

It’s embarrassing.

Maybe we should stop promoting FanPosters into Authors.

I think Hamdam just fucks it up

BHGP has a lot more FanPosts than other SBN sites, right?

Can we have a separate posting section?

FanPosts
FanShots
DailyThreads

SBN doesn't allow us that sort of flexibility, sorry.
Shucks.

Maybe I should apply for a job at SBN and help them realize that it’s a good idea to let their member blogs have a third section for their own use (i.e. hamsterdam threads, game threads, etc)

They let you have a "Batshit Insanity" section, but not a gamethread section?

Occupy SBNation

DAMMIT.

I was taking that correspondence writing course in order to become a better writer in hopes of becoming an author for BHGP in the path blazed by hawk#### (I can’t remember the numbers).

I know there is a sixer, a niner, and an eight, and something else.
Kind of a crazy time of year.

Also, our football team’s finish and our sketchy hoops team don’t help much.

I am rather shocked we don’t see more wrestling stuff in the fanposts/fanshots, but I suppose there are other websites that cater more to that taste.

Still, we all love BHGP, and you, Ross.

You guys have been doing a great job with all the news.

Especially with PSD being a link master. I guess we could be more original and avoid just flat out news, though.

its the offseason, so to speak

i know i really enjoyed any and photoshop/caption contest in the past

Yep, those are awesome.
(I'm kidding about not promoting FanPosters into Authors, btw.)
YES, I would have been disappointed if my hopes and dreams were dashed.
We all know you're just trying to protect

your huge salary.

More writers means less hundreds of thousands of Chizik coins in Ross’s account.

busted.
ROSS MAKIN' IT RAIN UP IN HEAH.
Raining Chizik nickels is, I'm fairly certain, a sign of the end times.
Absolutely.

I definitely think Cam Newton is the Anti-Christ. Either him or Craig James.

Craig James is the or?

I’d think that’s an easy call. Allegedly.

Intermission/Exhibition highlights:

Metcalf beats a Canadian named Garcia by one clinch?

Mocco beats a German with some nice throws.

I'd really love to see a Spievey pick-six to win the game for Detroit.
Do you think

Kirk writes down in his stupid little notebook whenever Spivey has fucked up tonight?

Ugh

Love Spievey, but I can’t stand the rest of the dirty fucks on that team.

I know Ryan Donahue got a facemask

but he’s not THAT dirty.

okay, I don't hate him, either.
Wasn't he injured during the regular season?

They had someone else punting at least for a few games. Haven’t seen a Detroit punt since turning the game on.

Yeah, he was hurt for a while.
MEGATRON

8==>

He has a pointy dick?
not that I know of, but I apparently have a short one
Dude's probably not named after a gun who turns into a giant cannon for nothing.
Might wanna get that checked out.
He's been burned twice tonite for TDs

That I’ve seen

That's funny because my STD's burned twice tonight.

Kidding!

There's some truth in every joke, Jerry
Except my std joke. I made it because when i first glanced i saw TDs and burned

and assumed it was from the BlackHerpesGoldPants convo earlier.

But, yes, this is Hamsterdameriffic now.
You mean treat this post like Hamsterdam now?

Is this the place to start discussing my unfortunate rash?

No.

You want the site “BlackHerpesGoldPants”

BlackHerpesGoldPenis
That's racist. Also maybe BlackHerpesGoldBond
I think that once you got the former.

The latter doesn’t help much.

There's never a place for that

I never want to hear another person’s medical problem for the rest of my life. They’re just depressing or whiny

They make creams for that.

Probably.

This Detroit secondary is atrocious.
Think about what this team could do if they had a good secondary
At this point, how many teams in the NFL *do* have good secondaries?
just a couple that didn't make the playoffs
Jets, Chiefs...
Pitt, Houston, Baltimore all pretty good. Or at least don't give up a lot of pass yards
Yeah, they're the best of the bunch in the playoffs.

The 49ers have a decent secondary, I think.

Houston and Baltimore are all about the front 7, really

JJ Watt deserves some reps for Rookie of the Year, BTW

He's been a beast.

So has Smith from the 49ers. That should be an interesting decision.

Probably going to be Von Miller..
Could be.

Aldon Smith does have a good case. Klug is going to be overlooked entirely for RotY, but should make the all-rookie team (assuming they have an all-rookie team).

I hope so.

Clayborn too. He had a good year. It was a surprisingly good year for rookies on the DL, though

Yeah. Clayborn played well.

It’s too bad that both were solid players on shit teams.

Titans still almost made the playoffs thanks to being in the AFC South

Bucs were just… oof. Baaaad.

That loss to the Colts really hurt the Titans
Also very good, yeah.
Steelers are the only playoff team with a good secondary, I think
At least they do at sea level.
poor Ryan Clark
I had mixed feelings about posting that joke.

Seeing as how he lost a spleen and gall bladder last time. Yikes.
But it’s definitely going to impact the game. He’s that good.

Yeah.

I feel bad for him. But that health situation is nothing to mess with.

So they're going to get Tebow'd?
I think Tebow will be

Polamalu’d

Friggin Tebow.

Also: Anybody else see John Elway having “the Donald” for hair now?

Great point

Look at the years that Rodgers, Brees, and Brady have had

silly rules changes

it’s turning into Arena ball

Yep.

In the name of “protecting players.”

And then they want 18 games. That one rings hollow.
Hey! I like arena ball

of course, I like my arena ball to be a separate game from my normal (NFL, NCAA) football, so yeah, it’s a little depressing.

The Jets weeeee. But their offensive coordinator sucks and they underperformed.
Speaking of Jets,

The Pepsi Max commercial where the Pepsi guy drives a truck through the locker room wall: How many Jets fans do you think would like to re-enact that right now?

All teh Jets fans.

I would. As long as I only hit Brian Shittenheimer and Sanchez.
Sanchez is not good.
I've never liked him.

Not at USC, not with the Jets, and particularly not when he’s prancing around in the mags like Men’s Fitness or Vanity Fair or whatever.

Nope, but he is a decent play action guy.

The main problem is they thought he was good so instead of working the run game with Shonn, they would put him in like spread shotgun looks and he is terrible at it. I wouldn’t mind at least seeing what Mcelroy from Bama can do

Well, we know he can complain to the radio people.

Seriously, I thought McElroy was a good leader at Bama, but he doesn’t have the arm for the NFL.

I know, I am more just in a "anyone but Sanchez mode"

It’s unlikely that they will draft another QB though, because Sanchise is young and Rex loves him

I think he doesn't have the mental toughness to go

through mild difficulties in NYC.

They need to find someone else. Dalton might have been perfect, if he didn’t make every NYJ fan think of Glenn Foley.

Sanchez has the mental toughness in spades

just not QB ability

Their passing game problem is that they have all streak-route receivers

and no hands guys. Just a dumb way to construct a receiver corps. The Raider way, I guess

Pretty much. I was actually pleasantly surprised with Jeremy Kerley.

They need to draft a possession receiver.

Paging Marvin McNutt!
Yup, or I would love Ryan Broyles but the whole ACL thing scares me
They should have had a pick there

Went right through his hands.

hey, BTN is showing the basketball game again in a half hour.

In case you love watching horrible games

a thought occures

DSJ would have probably won his match, and Iowa would have won

fudge

Cyborg got busted for steroids?

That’s like the least surprising thing ever.

Yeah.

I always figured that guy was on the juice.

(psst Cyborg is a woman)
THAT'S THE JOKE!
poop.

well-played.

who is Cyborg?
female MMA fighter, champion at 145
Just looked her up. Woof
Here you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiane_Santos

She would kick all of our asses

at once, probably

FTFY

She would kick all of our asses
at once, probably

I have no doubt.
That depends.

Can I use my nunchucks?

Can I use my manhood?

It might stop her.

Yo, Ross

did I get a comment deleted here, or did I just not hit “post.”

Either way, it wasn’t anything offensive, but not funny enough to re-post, either.

I didn't delete anything tonight.
Okay, I must not have hit post.

Maybe I should start drinking.

I would sex her into submission
I think I'd rather take the beating
her kegels are punishing
STEROIDS WHAT STEROIDS
Yo, Mexican't, are you going to join me in hoping that Jardine gets KTFO tonight?
I know very little about MMA

But Jardine is serial killer creepy.

Shaved head + creepy beard = scarytime.
Is that on Showtime?

The answer is yes either way. He’s a dick.

I met him in Minneapolis and he was a giant creep (hard to imagine, huh?). I was single at the time and he gave me the up-and-down and then attempted to steal the lady I’d picked up. When he failed he made sure to watch me walk out of the restaurant. So I gave him a wink.

Mexican't plays with fire
It was just stupid.

And it was a total accident. I loked like a douchebag that night, but the girl happened to be from Iowa so the deck was stacked in my favor. Also Jardine looks like the Techno Viking.

I always enjoyed your dragon tattoo, but kicking that hornets' nest was annoying
Yep

On Showtime proper, which I get thanks to the free preview this week. Hooray.

The Lions-Saints game should be over by then.

it's already over
It gets replayed on one of the other Showtime channels.
Think he meant the Lions-Saints game
I meant Lions/Saints
Ahhh.

Except the Lions just scored.

It's over unless you have money on it, then

What was the line?

Fist bump
Rec this man!

Seriously, that’s awesome, Mexican’t.

Apparently it started at 9.

How were the early fights?

Dunno

I’m watching the end of Saints-Lions

at least we broke OSU's "not outscored " streak

We can still cling to that, right?

Well, they received a bonus team point as a result of the TB, so they technically won 17-16.
You know what? Sucker Punch is a twisted up movie, but it's interesting.
Did the dance scenes seem to represent rape scenes that they didn't want to show?

It seems that the people that interpret the dancing as guards raping the girls are the people that cut the movie the most slack.

Huh? What? Uhm.

Er. Wow. I didn’t think of it that way.

Yeah. A lot of the people that hated the movie thought the dancing was just stupid and out of place.

The less critical reviews generally saw it as a movie for sexual assault victims. I’ve not yet seen it.

I'll have to rewatch it and keep that in mind then.
It's not very good.

But it’s rarely boring. So…

Yeah, It's interesting. It's a mindfuck at times.
Fuck off, Lions.
I think I need at least another decade to hate the Lions

I have a huge reservoir of love left from the Barry Sanders era

I hate their defense sans Spievey.

I like all of their offensive players.

I obviously like Spievey.

I must respect Calvin Johnson.

Everyone else there can suck it.

Is a love reservoir similar to a cum dumpster?
Mexican't I need to thank you for introducing me to Portman Kunis United through here

Got my jersey last week. Amazing.

I've been waiting to see which other colors they release.

I’ll probably end up getting the black home shirt, but I put a bug in the owners’ ear about a potential black & gold third shirt.

Black and gold would be pretty sweet

Keep me posted through here if you’re able to get that made

Will do

He claimed he’d have an away shirt (white) drawn up weeks ago, so I may just quit waiting and order the black. It’s an amazing shirt

I think you posted an image of it in one of the threads and I went to the site

Didn’t realize how amazing it was until I delved deeper into the illustrious background of PKU

Thanks for playing, Lions.

Hope you don’t have another 15 (?) year gap between playoff appearances.

Tough matchup. I think the Saints are the only ones that have a chance to beat the Pack.
I'm curious to see what the Niners look like in the playoffs.

Since they’re the only team in the NFC with a good defense.

Someone on the SVP show this week predicted a 'Niners SB win
I'm not sure I'd go that far

Unless Alex Smith can REALLY embrace his inner Trent Dilfer. And Patrick Willis turns into Ray Lewis 2.0

If I had to guess, the prediction relies entirely on SF being able to avoid shootouts.

If Harbaugh wins a SB in his first year, San Francisco should erect a statue outside of Candlestick for him.

Yeah.

Shootouts would kill them.

Well, maybe not outside the Stick,

because the Niners will probably move away from it within 5 years.

They can take the statue with them.
Alex Smith is better than Trent Dilfer

and his receivers are far better than the Ravens had that year as well

They cut Braylon Edwards,

and Crabtree is decent.

But didn’t Dilfer have a healthy Todd Heap and Shannon Sharpe? Or did they not have Sharpe yet?

Vernon Davis is better than both those guys

as a receiver, anyway. And I think they had Heap but not Sharpe, but I’m not certain on that at all

Vernon Davis may be faster than those guys,

but maybe not better than either Heap or Sharpe in their prime.

Sharpe in his prime was a HOFer

But he was past his prime with the Ravens

Davis has more TDs in a year,

but even Sharpe’s Baltimore years were comparable in receptions or yardage to Davis’s.

They had Sharpe

I’m pretty sure I remember him scoring the only points of the game against Oakland in the conference title game.

Now I has a sad.

I think that was also the game where that fat fuck Siragusa knocked Gannon out of the game.

Yeah, I knew you weren’t going to enjoy that post, sorry.

That Gannon resurgence era for the Raiders was incredible

Was that mostly due to Gruden or did they have talent that they lost later?

Other talent too

They had the last few years of good Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, some decent running backs…

But they all got old (and bad) in a hurry. Which led to some bad, bad, bad, bad years.

I think the Barrett Ruud thing probably hurt as well

He was young and very talented until his problems caught up with him

Oh, great,

then they’ve officially doomed us.

They settle for way too many FGs

It’s going to kill them at some point.

Yeah.

I’m a Niner’s fan, but I’m doubtful we’d beat the Pack or the Saints.

We did beat the Giants once this year. I’d like to think we could beat the Falcons in SF.

You did beat the Giants but they were pretty bi-polar.
Well, then that will make it difficult for the Giants to get through two straight weeks of playoffs,

right?

Not going to get through one week even. Falcons have been playing some

real good football lately. That would be a good matchup next week.

I like how Brandon Jacobs was so pissed

at the Jets for talking shit.

And then, one of his Giant team-mates (Tuck?) does the same shit two weeks later about Atlanta being dirty.

(And Atlanta is dirty, btw. Not Lions’ dirty, but still kinda dirty).

WithLeather made an argument that David Akers should be the MVP this year.

It’s mostly a joke, but it’s a pretty interesting case. Story here

What a deadly stiff arm by Megatron
Brands presser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhCd_uYASNg&feature=youtu.be&a

There’s a great story about traveling back in the day at around the 7-8 minute mark.

Never ceases to amaze me how intense this man is
Oh, hey, Ran across Yogi Bear on HBO.
Drew Brees is a bad man.
Another bomb or more terrible tackling?
Great pass.
Hate that motherfucker.
Really?

For what reason? Brees seems like a hard guy to hate.

The Alma Mater that must not be named.
He has some pretty repellant personal views

Although if you get too caught up in that you’re going to wind up hating most athletes

OUR MOST HATED NFL QUARTERBACK WITH A DUMB-LOOKING BIRTHMARK!
AND HE CONTINUES TO HAVE SURGERY TO GET RID OF IT!
I could watch Oprah try to wipe away that birthmark every day and never get tired of it.
Brees is kind of annoying at times,

but I can’t quite hate him.

I like the fact that he is small-ish, got dumped by the Chargers after an injury, and came back with a vengeance.

If I were judging Brees merely by the content of his character,

then I wouldn’t hate him at all. In other words, you’re completely right.

I think the spread was -10.5
Saints have over 600 yards of offense?

Nice D, Lions.

Most in postseason history.

616 and probably still enough time to pile it on if they want.

Yeah they do, with the INT now.

Run it up!

Despite Aldo headlining UFC 142, next week's PPV looks a bit weak.
It looks really lame.

I have no desire to head out to a sports bar to watch it.

UFC ON FOX 2 looks far better. And I can watch that from my couch. For free.

Saints could get FIDDY

(I mean, they probably won’t… but they could.)

If anyone lives in Bettendorf/Davenport go outside and look at the moon.

There is like a giant perfect circle ring around it. looks sweet.

If this is an intricate ploy to make people see you "mooning" them, I'm calling the cops.
My group noticed that after eating dinner...it was a little trippy.
Saints have 616 yards of offense.

That would be an NFL record.

Hot damn.

Ha, first and goal.

GO FOR FIFTY

This is like the NFL equivalent of what West Virginia did to Clemson the other night.
Why are they still passing?
Because FUCK YOU DETROIT?
Because they are kinda dicks?

I dunno. It was 3rd and 7 on that last pass play so I guess they just wanted to get a first down and keep running out the clock

I just came inside from looking at the moon and saw the pass.

I actually really like the Saints, but it seemed slightly odd.

Not like they have to worry about Detroit punishing them in return

They’ll be back to their losing ways soon enough.

Because they want to win the title of

“bigger hell-hole due to natural or economic disaster”?

FUCK CLEMSON

/obligatory.

Yeah. This is one hell of a second half shelling. I also love that the ACC was absolutely torched in that game to further punish VA Tech’s fans.

Hai guys. Charles Barkley on SNL tonight. I hope it is turribly funny.
I do love Charles Barkley

Is he still skinny?

Yeah, and he called Weight Watchers the biggest scam of all time.

Of course, the subject is entirely out of context. He was referring to it as a scam because he’s making nice sponsor moneys for doing next to nothing.

Now that he's skinny.

He can’t be funny anymore. It’s like a law of physics.

Did we really need a televised awards show for the NFL awards?

(That’s a rhetorical question, btw.)

Don't Nascar and the NHL have them now?

An NBA one might be kind of funny, particularly if they let the players bring strippers..I mean, companions.

Ahem: Escorts.
Ahem, Whores
They prefer to be called "self-employed models"
Don't fucking touch me grandpa, grandma is a cheating whore!

/Dane Cook’d

Probably, yes.
Non Sequitur answer:

Meatballs are nice.

I'll take any and every show about football.

We’ve only a month left before the doldrums of the offseason really take over.

Aww, no fifty.
466 yards? You are ridiculous, Brees.
Is he #1 on your board next year or is it Rodgers?
Can I cheat and say 1a and 1b?

I have no idea who I would favor there. The way Brees has ended the season has been insane.

I think it's still Rodgers because of his rushing TDs

But, yeah. That’s a tough one. Remember when RBs were so important to fantasy? Now there’s only 5-6 worth anything it seems

Yeah.

I had Rodgers in two leagues this year and was very happy. The rushing TDs are a nice bonus w/ him

Probably depends on if the Pack's WR corps is going to fall of a cliff.

Driver can’t play forever, and do you really trust anyone else there? Maybe Finley.

Meanwhile, Brees seems to work his magic with a bunch of different RBs, Colston-Meachem-Graham aren’t that old, and they play half their games indoors.

I am also conflicted. But yeah, probably Rodgers because of the rushing TDs.

Uh, what?

The Packers go 6 deep in quality WRs, nobody else in the league is even close. And they’re all young. And Finley is the worst by far.

How many of those guys do you trust?

And didn’t one of them just get hurt?

I trust all of them except Finley. They're very, very deep in receivers.
Do you watch much of the packers? They make unbelievable

toe tap, sideline catches so consistently it’s really unfair. Also Matt Flynn for 6 TD’s. A lot of that is the WR’s. I trust them all

I haven't watched them a ton,

but I thought those younger guys were developing a rep for drops.

Did Cobb just go out for the year with leg injury?

Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Finley.
Is Cam Newton 1c? That guy scores points. 2a at worst.

Just think next year if they can get a couple more good players. Maybe another solid receiver.

He's still too young to be taken ahead of those other guys.

Only one year of work

Yeah, he would be way up there.

But I’d takes Rodgers and Brees ahead of him. Maaaybe Brady too. But Cam has tons of value with all the rushing yards/TDs he gets.

Newton is probably a Pro Bowl player if he played in the AFC.

(I’m assuming, of course, that he didn’t make it since he’s stuck behind Rodgers and Breesus)

Pro Bowl takes 3 QBs per side
Stafford?
Not sure who the 3rd is
Manning
Ah.

Lots of good QBs in the NFC this year.

Which is why I tend to think the NFC will dominate the AFC over the next decade.

The AFC did well in the 00s because they had the best QBs.

I'd like to see him back for about 6 or 8 games

before I considered him elite again.

Eli...
Okay.

We’ll see if that Giants group of WRs can come close to repeating this year’s goodness.

We are just talking about who the 3rd pro bowl qb is..
Ah.

Sorry.

Haha it's fine. Just seemed like you were thinking

it was the Fantasy Football QB situation

I thought we were still talking about

“elite fantasy QBs”.

And besides, Eli is legit

He has a different set of receivers every year and has 4,000 yards and the playoffs every year

Yeah, he's under-rated by most.

It is probably helpful that the Cowboys always have big problems. And that the Jets are grabbing all the attention (good or bad) that they can.

Kind of gives him a break from the media’s drummed-up bullshit.

Back to Iowa wrestling for a second

Understanding the new tiebreaker rules, how would have the Iowa/OK St dual turned out last year?

That seems like too difficult a task to figure out. Or time consuming
Challenge Accepted
working on it as well
I just meant for me to figure out. I in know way ever even remotely challenged you.
Uh. "Challenge Accepted"

is a reference to “How I met your Mother”. One of the characters, Barney uses it frequently, even though he is not challenged.

I know. And Marshall will say stuff like I never even remotely challenged you.
For Example

Barney: Marshall, I have thought it over and I accept your challenge
Marshall: i didn’t challenge you to have sex with…
Barney: Tomorrow, the cougar hunt begins!

Well played, sir.
Permission to say lawyered?
OH GOD.

I totally forgot that line from Marshall. Thanks.

I think OSU would have won 47-40
I got 47-42

Either way OSU would have one

Probably.

I am no expert at the maths.

Wow, would have won

I am no expert at the words

I assumed you meant one extra point.
I guess it works either way
You are correct, sir.
And either way, you get the assist

Used your BHGP post from last year to get the results

Hooray for archives!

I actually went to Hawkeye Sports.

WOOO BHGP is useful!
It still doesn't matter to me

You have team scoring for team duals, and individual scoring for individual matches. The “no ties” thing is dumb.

Would it have gone that far into the TBs?

I couldn’t find last year’s results.

Yeah, there were no bonus points

No falls, no tech falls, no major decisions.

Wow.

That these duals are shown live only by IPTV is insane. Gable was right when he said the whole world should be able to see this. Any other sporting event that close would be talked about for weeks afterwards.

It was like Bama-LSU The First

but with some offense as well. Really a great dual to watch.

'Tis a shame.

ESPNU has shown a few in recent years. BTN had the rights for this one, though, since it was in CHA.

They decided more people would rather watch college hockey instead.

The Iowa-Okie State meet has been on regular ESPN I believe
Matches were even 5-5

All were decisions – no bonus points

Oh, that's right!

I remember now. Final score was 15-15. Hah.

Interestingly, while both meets were ties (essentially), six of the results this year were flipped from last year.

Same as last year: 125, 141, 149, 197
Diff. from last year: 133, 157, 165, 174, 184, HWT

Wow, Mo Lawal wrestled at UCOK?

I thought he was a big timer.

I need clarification on that acronym
University of Central Oklahoma.

I had an old roommate that moved to OK to wrestle for them after failing to walk-on at Iowa. He was from Texas and I believe the primary reason he moved to OK was to say “I wrestle at UCOK”

Yeah, it sounds like the name of a school on a National Lampoon or Van Wilder movie
Larkin deserved to lose for that dumb hair
Lawal is a monster.
Didn't he lose to someone last year?
Yeah, he lost a title fight.

I don’t think it was even close. He’s a great gatekeeper, but he’s got a ways to go before he is considered a high-level fighter.

Lost to Rafael Cavalcante in August 2010 actually
Ah, I didn't realize it was that long ago.

The time between MMA fights always feels shorter than it usually is. GSP’s unbeaten streak is at something like 4 or 5 years, but it doesn’t feel anywhere near that long.

Yeah.

Silva’s been undefeated for, what, six years?

Yeah. Last loss was the DQ against Okami in '06.

Insane.

And that loss is about as legit as the loss on Bones Jones' record.
Yeah.

Before that was the flying heel hook in ‘04 to Ryo Chonan. So his last legitimate loss was roughly 8 years ago. I can’t imagine feeling that dominant for so long. What would make anyone want to keep going after 8 years of total control?

What else is he gonna do?
tax accountancy
That would be an odd career change for a dude who specializes in kicking guys in the ehad.
not really. He works for the IRS
Well, I guess I assumed he's making more money than he probably is.

Maybe down the road it’ll be less likely.

I'm sure he's made a lot of money.

I think it’s just one of those things where he craves the competition. Same reason why guys like Jordan, Favre, etc. kept playing for so long.

that is a loooong time in MMA
Also, he spent a year at Okie State so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck him.
Archer re-runs on FX right now.

Can’t wait for the new season.

Dark Knight on TNT-W.

EEEEE. Heath does a hell of a job as Joker.

Still haven't seen it

I don’t get to watch many violent movies now that I’m married with a youngin

I have it on DVD,

have only watched it once or twice.

I actually feel bad that I have quite a few DVDs and I never watch them. And my DVR is almost full.

I wish I were like other people I know and could just take the occasional day off (or week off, in the case of my cousin the police officer who gets crazy comp-time). And just watch the TV.

I have a little time thanks to travels.

But yeah, My tv time has dramatically decreased over the past year :(

I could probably watch more DVD's

if I were taking plane-trips and stuck in hotels.

But then, I’d never get to the DVR (and I still don’t get it cleared off quickly, as is).

Probably not new to you...

..but being still sore from the OSU Craptastic Letdown Super Tour that just swung through CHA, I just received this video from my aunt. Best video I’ve ever seen with the line, “So I hear you think you know something about Iowa? Fuck you.” Lifted my spirits a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZZ6JD0g9Y

Hopefully I’m not beating a dead horse by posting this, just got it and it gave me a chuckle.

It is, but that video rules, so you are forgiven.
My fave part continues to be:

“Do you love to eat? Looks like it.”

Eating a large handful of cake is also fantastic
I love cake,

but I need a spoon.

I think I posted that link last week

But I agree with Chazz. You are absolutely forgiven

Whew, thanks.

Having a new baby, new job, and sick dad back in Iowa, my life is a busy, blurry, foggy, what-the-fuck-day-is-it poor excuse of a life. I honestly thought all the CHA events were tomorrow as of noon today. I am all out of sorts.

Best wishes, dude.

I get borderline-overwhelmed just managing myself, with very few big life problems (or good things, like your job and child).

yes, best wishes all around. And congrats on the first two.
Echoing the sentiments of these other folks

Best wishes man

Much appreciated all.

BTW, my initials are NAG, and I declared if we had a boy I’d want him to have the same initials. I tried for Nile, no shit, but the wife wouldn’t go for it (she doesn’t understand, she’s from Ohio and went to Denison). Turns out we had a boy and we settled for Nolan Aubrey. He might not be a Nile, but he sure as hell is a Hawkeye.

You still got the Iowa reference in with Aubrey, as in Aubrey Devine. Awesome!
Aaand Des Moines made an appearance on Cops tonight
Vint? Jacobi?
Crazy (legit) bald guy waving a knife at people.

I hope that is neither of them

Oh god fucking damnit. I asked them not to put that on tv.
OK, they have hair so it's probably not them.
That explains Jacobi's decision to call it quits.
Jacobi has (some) hair...
Robbie Lawler fighting out of D-port
Jesus, now THAT's a cheap shot.
Technically, sure.

But it’s a stupid rule. Soccer kicks and stomps are dangerous, knees like that aren’t any worse than a ground and pound elbow.

Hey someone from Iowa wins today!

HOORAY!

UNI mens' hoops won at Drake by 15,

ISU won at A&M by 25 today.

Congratulations to Iowa school I do not care about at all.
So. Much. Angerrrrrr.
That was a goofy finish
hahaha
RT @uselessgomez Robbie Lawler wins by tea bag
Awesome. I love how we have 1100+ comments on a wrestling thread that evolved into Ham'dam.
I just came by to see how things went tonight (I had a sad)

And I said aloud “LOLWUT” when I saw the number of comments.

But how did you pronounce that?
el oh el wut.

However I’m #teamLawl if we’re talking pure LOL.

#team_ell_ohh_ell
Well, folks, Today's been fun.

Too bad we lost both major events today. Eh, there will be other days.

Have a great evening, y’all!

Sorry Chazz, 49'ers play the Saints. Better luck next year.
We'll see.

Niners keep surprising me.

But yeah, they’re probably done.

It's more how the Saints are playing right now than anything
Yeah, I know.

And, I still don’t trust the Niners’ offense.

This is probably the most "meh" championship fight that I've ever seen.

Two guys that basically lucked into their title shots.

GOODNIGHT JARDINE.

Knocked clean out.

Man, that ref let Jardine take a LOT of abuse.
Seriously, WTF was that ref thinking?
The overhead shot made the convulsions look like Jardine trying to get up.

Herb just had a terrible view, which is his fault, and probably wasn’t sure how bad it was.

Yeah

He wasn’t defending himself at all, though

He took a unnecessary beating.

Dean really should’ve been on the other side, or closer so that he had a better understanding of how hurt Jardine was.

Wait, that was Herb Dean?

Oof.

What a terrible interview.

Asking UFC to send fighters to Strikeforce? hahhahahahahahahaha

Did you see CM Punk is walking out with Sonnen at this next match?
I did not.

That’s pretty cool.

So apparently "The Devil Inside" has a REALLY shitty ending.
actually I have heard from numerous people that it is the worst horror movie ever made.

besides the human centipede for completely different reasons.

I just heard some people talking about it on Twitter, so I went and googled it.

That sounds really awful.

I would recommend listening to Daniel Tosh's spoiler alert for Human Centipede

That movie was bad, but not as awful as I expected. The sequel was about 10 times worse than I had expected for either it or the original. I would have stopped watching after about 20 minutes, but I paid to rent it. Out of principle, I had to make myself watch all of it.

The director has promised to make the third even more disgusting.

How he plans to top barbed wire masturbation is beyond me.

Christ, there is going to be a third?
Yeah.

Here’s the first story I found about it. I didn’t bother to read it because I refuse to watch any of them.

One can only hope

fingers crossed

Actually, if you want to watch a fucked up, no hope for humanity movie, check out (or probably download [doubt you can rent it]) A Serbian Film.

It is easily the most messed up movie you can ever watch. It makes Human Centipede look like child’s play.

One can only hope

fingers crossed

Actually, if you want to watch a fucked up, no hope for humanity movie, check out (or probably download [doubt you can rent it]) A Serbian Film.

It is easily the most messed up movie you can ever watch. It makes Human Centipede look like child’s play.

Yeah, I've heard about Human Centipede (and saw Tosh's bit about it).

I can’t bring myself to watch it.

I meant that I heard people talking about The Devil Inside on Twitter, though.

Frank Shamrock has had braces for a decade.
Maybe he's going undercover as a high school student in an upcoming movie.
Shameless is back tomorrow.

I expect Emmy Rossum to be topless in the opening scene.

I shamelessy GIS'd that

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