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Caring Is Creepy 2012: Have a Seat, Barkley Hill


When I was a senior in high school, I too had a brief dalliance with Iowa State. About two months before graduation, I was seriously considering going to Ames, when my grandma called and said, simply, "We don't go there." I never again considered ISU, and that August I was in Iowa City.

I'm not saying Barkley Hill got a call from his grandma, but he had someone in his family nudging him toward Iowa City when he announced yesterday he was withdrawing his verbal commitment to Iowa State and committing to the Hawkeyes for next fall. Hill had appeared to be a rock solid Cyclone; he'd committed to Paul Rhodes before his junior season, and maintained that commitment when Iowa offered him a scholarship soon after that. When word of his Iowa City visit came last weekend, it was because his family wanted him to "see all his options", even those that come equipped with an enraged, position-hating deity. Those options were obviously pretty good, because the flip was complete by the end of the day.

Hill was the offensive star of Cedar Falls High's run to the Iowa Class 4A semifinals (2,491 yards, 20 TD), and is arguably the most productive Class 4A back of all time: His 89 career rushing touchdowns are a Class 4A record, and 6,163 career rushing yards puts him near the top for all-time yardage. Hill finished his senior season as Gatorade State Player of the Year and a Parade All-American. Rivals rates him a 3* recruit and the #2 player in the state; Scout and ESPN have him at 2*. He held offers from Iowa and ISU; Michigan State, Minnesota, and Nebraska took a look, but he committed to ISU before they could get to far. His high school coach praised his vision and work ethic, and that's nice, but we just jettisoned a Gentleman of the Year. AIRBHG eats good, wholesome, hardworking kids for breakfast.

Let's not kid ourselves: This decision is about opportunity to play, and with the running back depth chart again decimated, Hill will have every chance to contribute from the moment he steps on campus until the moment he steps off. We're just going to hope the day he steps off is, like, four years from now.

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I'm impressed with your Grandma's hate

Even if it for ISU. Props.

Hope he survives all 4 years for you guys.

I’d just like to see AIRBHG humbled at this point.

Paki O Meara teabagged AIRBHG, yo.
Running backs

get 4 years now? When did they increase it?

Not really a DannyWoodheadback..

I think he’s more of a BalancedBack

I think he's the Iowaback we've been missing since Paki, Wegher, and (especially) A-Rob flew the coop.
IowaBack indeed

Always need one on the team.

Wait...

WEGHER IS OFF THE TEAM?!!

I hear he's coming back.

Totally. Yep.

What IS he doing anyway?

Serious Q.

Pissing away opprotunites

so that he has lots of regret to fuel the drinking in about 15 years.

ouch

but true. Hello talent, there’s the toilet.

Have no idea

Pretty sure he comes from money and his dad totally owns a dealership. Thus, he’ll probably fall back on that.

His dad owns Wegher Construction, which is a pretty big construction firm in Sioux City.
Wegher really IS Mike Dexter
Astronaut Mike Dexter?
If Daddy lets him

My Dad would not think twice about cutting me off if I was a fuck up. Which in our case would mean that I didn’t get to borrow his truck whenever I wanted……

"If you get arrested, I'm not bailing you out"

Was my Dad’s only rule.

My Dad always said, if you get arrested, when they give you your phone call, be sure to call me so I know. I’ll pick you up the next day.

I thought he was being a tough guy

As I got older I realized his hidden message was “don’t get caught.”

Yes, don’t get caught, and, if you do, you’re a dumb ass and will sit in jail overnight.

Where are we getting these assumptions that he's spoiled? I never got that vibe, but maybe I missed something.

He fucked up, and he won’t get another chance at college football ever again. I think the disappointment from that would be enough depresssionfuel for me.

He left the team for personal reasons

that some rumored to be “he didn’t want to live in the dorms.”

And, his behavior after Iowa (at OU, and then with the police while at Iowa Western CC) do kind of lend themselves to the idea that Wegher might have been spoiled and pissed away some good chances.

Always good to sign the top in state talent

And stick it to ISU just a little bit. Welcome aboard Mr. Hill. I hope you’re stay is long, productive, and AIRBHG free.

On a side note, ESPN says there are 8 4 and 5* recruits “considering” becoming a Hawk at this point. Does anyone have any reasons to believe we pick up any of them?

No.
Alex Kozan is probably the best bet right now

OL out of Castle Rock, CO. 4-star guy.

Shit, that's right down the road from me

I’ll go have a word with him. No way that could backfire.

Wear your “running” shorts.

I like where this is going.
Ashton Kutcher would like a word with you.
This was my inclination too

Just hoping for a little optimism. Apparently I came to the wrong place

We're in the last 3 for Kozan with Auburn and Michigan.

He said via a Rivals interview that KF was there last week and the home visit with him was great. We’ll see – he’d be a great addition to the class.

When was the last time we picked up a 5 star?
My guess is

Dan Doering

HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED.
Mike Jones?
As 6 seconds guessed, it was indeed Dan Doering in the 2005 class.
I just took a look back at that class

and now I am sad

Although it did produce 5 players who at least got a look from the NFL

That seems like a number I could live with from every class

Exactly.

If we pulled that class in every year, I think most people could live with the attrition, not living up to hype, etc. If I have to live through coker, McCall, Derby, etc. leaving every year (or Christensen, bain, whoever), I need me some Moeaki, Richardson, Eubanks, Angerer, Stross, Calloway, GREENE!!!, et al. to make up for it.

Granted, Reiff, McNutt, Bernstine, etc. are no slouches, following up Stanzi, DJK, Ballard, Clayborn, Klug, but they need to have those guys year-in, year-out. if this is what the attrition is going to be like.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Stross?

Seriously?

Terry or Trey?

Because I remember Terry Stross catching a big pass in the Orange Bowl on one leg.

And Trey

dropping everything in sight at the Shoe.

Or a single pass

whatever.

It was more than one.
Wasn't he hurt most of that year?

He may not have been as good as projected, by he was a serviceable WR.

I just wanted to make a joke

that makes Stross look like Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde.

Really, I don’t think he was bad. (Partially because I’ve seen Herb Grigsby – stonehands, and Dominique Douglas – stonehead).

Maybe? Probably?

He was overall decent, but he had a really poor game against Ohio State. I was just pointing out that it was more than just one missed catch in that game.

I honestly didn't remember any drops other than the one in the end zone

which was huge, obviously. But the reaction to some fans after that was disgusting.

my bad. i just remember him being useful at one time doing some thing

This is why I try not to rely on my “memory” of things.

You remembered right

He had a big catch in the Orange Bowl that kept the clinching drive alive. I think it was a 3rd down, too. It was a nice bounce-back after the numerous drops he had at tOSU (one of them a TD pass).

I also remember him being useful during the horrible IU game in 2007. He caught a late first half TD pass, awesomely spiked the ball – then got his ass chewed by the bench for the ensuing unsportsman-like penalty he received.

That class was key in winning an Orange Bowl
Still waiting for B.J. Travers to make an impact.

Did you hear about his SPARQ rating???

This is a joke, right?

Because it’s hilarious either way.

Actually, the top in-state talent committed to Michigan

Darboh out of WDM Dowling(?)

I'm just hoping that we don't lose any of the guys we do have

/looks at Jaleel Johnson’s Twitter

Johnson would be a huge loss this late in the recruiting game

It’d be especially cruel to lose him to a program like Michigan State. I wonder what they’re telling recruits right now and which coach they’re predicting will be let go from the Iowa staff.

Signing day can’t get here fast enough.

Well there was a whole thing with Jerel Worthy tweeting him yesterday
Seriously? I missed that.
No one invovled

Worthy or the Iowa fans, comes out looking good in the exchange. Too many mouth-breathers have access to Twitter.

"Too many mouth-breathers have access to Twitter"

Truth.

Oh yeah, there were a lot

and then Worthy was calling Iowa fans bitter because they lost, and Iowa fans were all “uh, it took you 3 years to beat us, 7 got 6, ruined your perfect season a year ago, etc..” So yeah, nothing really good came out of that.

It probably amused Jaleel

It would be fun having two ridiculous fanbases and a futre NFLer arguing over you.

I have two nieces who go to school with him

Neither one will lobby him for me/us/KF/Iowa. And no, I did not suggest anything inappropriate. They’re my nieces not rally girls.

His video is actually really impressive

Even if it’s against the pillow fight that is Iowa highschool football.

/sarcasm

RBs

Great pick up Hawks ! We need one more RB for this class . Tevin Shaw ?

That would be the most likely

Although there is apparently only like 3 scholarships left to give out, but maybe they go over (I think they can go over by 3 so long as the total number of scholarship players is back down to 85 for summer camp or something?).

yes, that is what oversigning is

you sign more than what you have, but you get kids to transfer/quit before the summer requirements hit.

Correct. And in practical terms, there are no limits such as "3 over 85"
well, that was the confusion in the terms for CDC (heh)

They have however many left that would get them either 85 or 25 for this class, whichever comes first. But yeah, the parenthetical clouds that a little. When you’re “cheating” kids out of their college education, there are no rules.

Paul "Rhodes"

Trollin’ the ’clones hard today…

"We don't go there." ~Grandma

My freshly dry cleaned blouse is going back for a second visit. Coffee, coffee everywhere. LOL!

Iowa State is a perfectly fine school and a very good place to learn many things well in preparation for a productive life ahead

…football, however, is not among those things.

there are many factors, etc, etc.

"a very good place to learn many things well in preparation for a productive life ahead"

You’re right: animal husbandry, veterinary medicine, agricultural engineering…

Oh, and how to riot.

"Oh, and how to riot"

I never acquired that skill in my time in Iowa City. I did, however, learn how to survive a tornado. Important skill, that.

Me too!

Fucking tornado of 2006. I never want to be that close to a tornado ever again.

We lacked an event like VEISHA that was necessary for the proper acquisition of high-level rioting skills.

I saw a car flipped on its roof on Church St. once, it was blue.

That’s the second closest thing to a riot I’ve ever seen in Iowa City. The closest was after the 2005 Michigan game. Nothing got out of hand, but there was a lot bottled up rage after that game, and a lot of glass bottle smashing heard on my walk home.

I think I saw that car the next day when we went out gawking at the destruction.

I think I had a rage blackout after the ‘05 Michigan game. I got home, but I have no recollection of doing so. At least I didn’t wake up with blood all over my hands…

(To be fair, it probably would have been the blood of Dave Witovet. AND NO JURY OUTSIDE OF ANN ARBOR WOULD HAVE CONVICTED ME OF WRONGDOING.)

The car I'm talking about

was flipped over on some random weekday. It was not the result of the tornados. I’m pretty sure it just made someone mad. But I’m sure there were also blue cars flipped over by the tornados of ’06. Blue cars are just not safe.

A friend owned a blue car

it got trashed by a mob after a party. It just happened to be parked outside the wrong door. He now over insures everything.

Ohhh

Yeah, I meant a tornado-flipped car. It was by the Starbucks on the corner, I think.

Truth

You would’ve been fine for that hypothetical crime. What a disaster of a game for that crew.

A happy rager was after the Wisconsin game in 2004. That was a good one. And I have to think Iowa City would’ve gone bonkers had the 2002 Minnesota game been played in Iowa City.

Yep

The post-game celebrations in 2002 for the Minnesota game would have been extraordinary if the game had been in IC. (But then we never would have gotten to tear down the Metrodome goalposts…)

True - that's an especially awesome mini-riot

Tearing down the goalposts in an opponent’s stadium – doesn’t get much better.

and then getting them out of the house
After the Wisco loss in 1998

The Ped Mall came damn close to a riot.

It was mostly Wisconsin fans being assholes, right?

Not that “Wisconsin fans being assholes” is a major surprise – they take peculiar glee in being assholes – but didn’t Wisconsin fans go bananas after that game? I’ve heard the Ped Mall was completely trashed.

That was probably their first win in Iowa City in a quarter-century.

Didn't Ron Dayne set the NCAA record for career rushing yards in that game?

Or was that up in Madison the next year?

It was in Madison in '99

Sad face…

Ah.

I knew it was against Iowa…

He went for like 240 or 250 in the game too

He ran over everything in sight.

That's how it started

but Iowa fans were in no mood for their shit. ICPD deployed EVERYBODY and got it under control but it was not a good night downtown.

I'm interested in hearing more about that night.

I remember being at the game with my parents and Wisconsin just dump-trucking us. Thankfully I wasn’t in college yet and left Iowa City after the game. I can only imagine the fights in downtown. Wisconsinites going ape, breaking stuff, starting shit, etc., and the Iowa hoardes not putting up with it.

fights (mostly shoving/posturing) started at the game

Wisco fans entered the student section en masse and it got very heated.

I remember that as well

My dad’s seats are in the north end zone so the old student section was only a couple sections away. You could see it getting heated over there late in the game when Wisconsin was in curb-stomp mode.

Ummm, try first win over IOWA, anywhere, under Fry.

I can remember when Camp Randall was Kinnick North….

They beat us at Camp Randall in 1997 when Scott Mullen started at QB

That was their first win in the series since 1976. The 1998 game was their first win in Iowa City since 1974.

There was a time in my life when I had no idea what it was like for Iowa to lose to either Wisconsin or Iowa State.

Ok. I stand corrected.

I remember that time. It was called “birth to 19”….

I also remember this line “The only reason you’re going to the Rose Bowl is because you didn’t play Iowa this year” That went over real well in the Madison suburbs in 90-whatever it was that they went to their first one.

I lived in Burge my freshmen year

that was a riot. So much so my next of school was at another college.

Me too

I ended up taking two years off before going back, and I lived off-campus for the rest of my time there. Coincidence?

I was going to mention something about Burge being a riot every weekend night

Thursday Night: Fire Alarm
Friday Night: Fire Alarm
Saturday Night: Fire Alarm

Burge was a complete fucking mad house

before the drinking age changed to 21. A couple fire alarms are nothing.

I turned 19

2 months before they changed the drinking age to 21. I was a popular man.

I can only imagine living in Burge

I lived over in Rienow and we had the occasional fire alarm at 3 am on a Friday night in the middle of winter. Those were never fun.

Is Burge where they had kids stay for orientation? I remember staying at a dorm over there for orientation, but I can’t remember if it was Burge. Either way, the dude I shared a room with was arrested that night and gave ICPD a fake ID. Good start to his Iowa career.

It sounds like you may have been my brother's orientation roommate

If so, very small world. Did you start at UI in 2000?

No, my freshman year was 2002
Gotcha

It might be a pretty common story then in Iowa City. God I love that town.

Yep

There were a few guys from my orientation that were arrested during orientation (and I did start at UI in 2000, so your brother may have been one).

Were you one of the girls

that fell prey to the seasoned veteran males at Brother’s and their smooth talking? Also a pretty common orientation story, I think.

Not during orientation

Once school started…yes.

Ooh, maybe we are the ones with the small world

OK, that was too creepy even for Caring Is Creepy. I’ll show myself out.

Hey, I also started in 2000.

I did not get arrested during orientation, though.

There were a few that got arrested during my orientation

Must be common. I miss Iowa City so much.

The lesson, as always – pick your going out companions with purpose. I ran on more than a handful of occasions, and was never the slowest

There was a high school kid in one of the Hamsterdam posts asking about colleges

I think it was the Tebow post. He needs to get over here and read this before he makes his choice.

Was it iamalex?

Sounded like his priorities were running more towards academics…

With each passing year,

I subscribe more to the Bill Simmons theory on college selection:

Follow the warm weather and hot ladies.

We can't all go to Swarthmore.
I think that theory is mostly solid

But Iowa City has more than its fair share of hotties, as do several other “cold weather” colleges.

And there’s not much better than the first nice day in the spring when skirts re-appear. That is a sight to behold.

My dorm neighbors in Burge got arrested for building pipe-bombs.

sniff

Memories…

My neighbors

built pipes.

I lived in temp housing my entire first semester

I got my room because the guy previously there got kicked out for having 4 POUNDS of marijuana in his closet. I think some things remain the same every decade.

In 90 or 91

some guy about killed himself building a pipe bomb in Burge. He ended up setting his room on fire and jumping out a third story window to escape. Broke both legs, damn near died. I remember watching the ambulance cart him off.

Wait, what?

I was in the dorms for 2 yrs (Daum (because i’m am idiot) & Currier) starting fall ’89 & I have no memory of this. Had plenty of friends over in Mayflower, too. Weird.

I was in Currier

ground floor north both years. Worked in the cafeteria the second year.

The incident didn’t get much press. I don’t think the U really wanted it to.

God, my memory is terrible

Um, pretty sure I was south (was that the ‘girl’ side? Seems like all the boys were on the other side of the floor) & maybe 2nd fl? Sheesh, it was only 20 years ago, right?

I quite enjoyed the Currier cafeteria- hated wandering over to Burge on the weekends. Ya did good work, Flak!

As far as the incident? Just surprised the rumor mill wasn’t a little stronger for something big like that.

Shit, yeah. I remember that.

I was on campus finally after some time at Kirkwood. I was that lame upperclassman who wanted to get the dorm experience (and to put off paying rent), though I was over in Rienow.

That sounds about right.
And not just Burge

I lived in Mayflower and that was a nightly occurence. I slept (read: I was totally passed out) through a few of those after I had gotten to used to them. Good thing they were never a real fire alarm.

You never need to buy a strobe light!
Remember that time the third floor in Darnall flooded freshmen year?

Anyone? Anyone?

/so lonely

Oooh, I survived a tornado!

Pussies.

I was in Iowa 1989-2003. Gang Lu, Major Flood, Chris Street Death, Lost Rose Bowl.

You kids today . . .

//lawn, etc.

And now you live in the Quad Cities

and daily take your life into your own hands dodging SUV’s haphazardly driven by yuppy soccer moms.

Cougars are bad drivers . . .

Must be the lack of opposable thumbs

There was a major flood the summer I left (2008) and we did lose the '02 Orange Bowl while I was there.

Nothing happened that compared to the Gang Lu shootings or Chris Street’s death, though. (And I’m perfectly OK with that.)

And we saw the basketball program go into complete free-fall on and off the court
and Pierre Pierce.

Doesn’t compare to CMS or Gang Lu, of course.

Sorry, must have deleted part of that

We had the [REDACTED]/Lickliter era with the PP scandals.

Easy Place burning

The Dome burning
Important admin members leaving for Michigan or Stanford
The weird midnight groper that was the genesis for SafeWalk
Domonique Douglas, Kahlil Hill, and many early works by AIRBHG
PIERRE PIERCE

The sky is always falling, unfortunately. It’s the rule of the world. Thank a deity we don’t have many more of the Gang Lu or Chris Street stuff, as you mention

Shit, I forgot about Easy Place!

I got a Ben Harper poster there.

Wasn’t the Dome burning the same year as 9/11 too? All sorts of shit went down that year (that stuff, plus me personally).

And, oh, Pierre Pierce. And douchebag Alford. I’ve got stories of the basketball team coming in to the restaurant I worked at and having to serve them. And Nate Kaeding impersonating Pierre Pierce is one of them.

Um, you, personally, went down that year? Is that really what you meant to say?

The Dome burned in 2001. George Harrison passed away that fall too

The basketball team hit their high water mark under Alford at No. 2 Missouri, then promptly shit the bed the rest of the year.

Do share stories on basketball around that time. They’re always fun.

Oh, this is a TWSS
Fuck Mary Sue Coleman

The defiler of Dr. Tom
and in heaven there is no bear
and FUCK MICHIGAN too
while we are at it
want to know how i really feel?

Go HAWKS

Heaven is full of bears.
thats why we grease them here
Oh shit.

Seems odd that God would allow godless killing machines in his house.

You get to ride them in heaven
Also, I think the Vikings had the afterlife right

fight all day and fuck all night

What if you prefer to

rock and roll all nite, and party everyday?

Then you should return to the 70's as quickly as possible
nope.. just part of every day
I was there 89-99

so, all that same stuff. You forgot a nasty ass ice storm and the end of the Fry era.

What do you mean, nasty

it was fun sliding down the hill by Chem-Bot and nearly ending up in the river

Sooooo...you were on the 14 year plan, eh?
A lot of people go to college for seven years.
A lot of people wear tights as leggings,

but that doesn’t make it right. Ladies! Tights AREN’T leggings!

There are some pretty horrific tights debacles down here in Lubbock

There is a very narrow set of body shape parameters that allow for tights to be appropriately worn in public, 250 and 5’ 3" does not fall within that range.

Well, then.

I guess I’ll have to quit wearing mine.

Boo hoo.

and jess setttles

still had two years of eligibility left

I had class in Van Allen that morning.

Surreal.

Losing the Rose Bowl ain’t so bad. And the one you’re talking about was a fun one to watch. Better than never going…

Holy shit. That was either the greatest drinking night or the worst, depending on your personal experience with the tornado.

My apartment was 2 blocks away from Chi Omega, so we heard the fucker, but holy shit, we escaped with zero damage. I consider myself lucky as hell.

I learned how to riot at the last wet VEISHA (bystander)

And met President Jishke, while a aquaintance via an ISU (highschool) friend (we were all hammered) was being arrested for public intox after rolling one of those giant trash barrels down (what seemed like) the longest hill on campus while screaming at the top of his lungs.
All of this happened on our way to see Kevin Nealon and (/blecsh) The Nadas (if you know who I mean… we left). We stayed drunk, and were better off for it.

Jischke. Former President of ISU. See also OMHR.
The Nadas stink

That’s all.

They play a lot of shows.

At Iowa festivals/fairs.

I’d bet they could navigate the Surf Ballroom while blindfolded.

Nada Surf, however, is kind of decent
They're pretty Popular.
The Nadas were in Iowa City a lot during my time there

Everyone always seemed to want to go to one of their shows. I think I went to one and left not that far into it.

You made the right decision, Captain n Diet.
Didn't Riverfest used to be really VEISHA-esque?

And then it was tamed waaay down and only now making it back to decent even status?

Beats me.

I never thought Iowa City needed a VEISHA-type event because almost every weekend ended up being a big party downtown.

That was my senior year of HS.

My parents live quite close to Mercy Hospital—about 3 blocks away from Iowa Ave—the worst part of the destruction. Of course I was standing outside when it came through, marveling at how quiet it was. Then a transformer blew right outside our house. It was NOT quiet anymore.

Yeah, I was living pretty near Mercy then too.

We were in an apartment on the corner of Governor and Iowa (or maybe the next street over from Iowa; my memory is hazy now). It decimated an entire block of houses across the street from us and did a number on the sorority up the hill from us.

"...and did a number on the sorority up the hill from us."

;)

The one on Washington St, right?

True story, I totally finished doing a number on my girlfriend (now wife) right before that tornado hit. Fortunately the tornado moved down Iowa and not Washington cause our naked remains would of been everywhere.

Yeah, that was the one.
That would be my house :(

Also a former UI President’s house, so some historical significance, too. Oh, the memories…

What a beautiful story.

Who shared that one at your wedding reception?

I was living in the Blackhawk apartments on Court St

directly across the street from the old brick church that collapsed (St. Patrick’s). Shit went down. But it was the best night I’ve ever had in Iowa City. Such camaraderie and open container allowance may never again be seen in Iowa City.

That night was wild

Open containers were everywhere, and the cops didn’t care. I think the Hy-Vee south on Gilbert had power and their liquor store was completely cleared out.

I think everyone, cops included, was just overjoyed that downtown Iowa City wasn't obliterated by that tornado.
I was overjoyed to learn in the next few days

that my enjoyment of that night was not sullied by later news of several people dying or being seriously injured.

Was it the Union that lost part of the roof?

I think that was the only bar to be affected, no?

The Union or Martini's, I think.

The Ped Mall area was remarkably unscathed.

Sounds like the New York City Blackout of 2003

that I was randomly a part of the summer before my senior year

Enron Shenaniganz
Canadians actually
The documentary lied to me?
But South Park didn't
"How To Riot" was a pretty good class

Seemed a little heavy on the Powerpoints though.

And waaaaay too heavy on that Kaiser Chiefs song.
It was heavy on the Powerpoints

Until we kicked that Prof’s ass and burned his classroom down.

And tipped over his Prius.
And how to keep sheep quiet
i saw an article on yahoo yesterday naming the most useless college degrees

the 3 things you listed are all in the article

I read that too.

Although, I think there is a difference between “animal science” and veterinary medicine.

http://education.yahoo.net/articles/most_useless_degrees.htm

Love his name.

It’s a pretty damn Gnarls name.

He should enroll under "Bill Harkley"

You can’t be too careful as an Iowa somethingback.

I think we decided earlier that position is plain “IowaBack”

The Clone fans should've seen this one coming

The music to his highlight tape is the music from “Black and Yellow” after all.

pretty sure the kid was just waiting for Iowa to call

I hear the clone fans over there aren’t happy

I also flirted briefly with ISU when looking at schools

I also made the right decision to blow them off.

I remember driving over to Iowa City for a visit

My dad (an ISU alum) wanted to take the interstate exit that heads up to Ames for a little detour there. I sad “no thanks.”

(We did make a brief detour in Grinnell, which quickly made me decide that I could never, ever go to school there.)

I had one high school friend that originally enrolled at ISU

They had his intended major (Meteorology). He spent one weekend in Iowa City with us about a month in and started his transfer process the Monday he got back.

How the hell

Grinnell college ended up in Grinnell is a complete mystery.

I will say the Pagliai’s is better in Grinnell than the one in Iowa City though.

"I will say the Pagliai’s is better in Grinnell than the one in Iowa City though."

Better herb?

Well, it was named after the town

Then Warren Buffett and Joseph Rosenfield managed the endowment including providing over 10% of the start up funds for a semiconductor company called Intel started by an alum. Now they have a top 50 endowment and they can do pretty much whatever they want financially.

I learned something today. I did not know Intel was co-founded by someone from Iowa.
I'm not sure he's from Iowa, just that he went to Grinnell.

There is a distinction there.

wikipedia told me born in Burlington, raised in Grinnell
I knew I was going to Iowa

But when you take the ACT’s you can send your scores to 3 schools so I sent mine to both Iowa and Iowa State….and Notre Dame for some reason.

When I got my results it said my score was only in the middle half of scores sent to ND, but was in the top 10% of all scores sent to Iowa State. Almost made me kind of sad for them.

"middle half"?
It's why he wasn't in the top 10% at ND, I guess
as in, 25% above, 25% below...
Alright, now I've gotta know:

was the score 30 or above?

Are we gonna measure dicks?

rockyh and Lukateake are the John Holmes and Ron Jeremy of this game.

I think 30 or above would be top 10% at any school except maybe a few Ivies.
A 27 at Penn is the middle 50% of the class.
a 30 is 75th percentile according to this link

My internet savvy score is low.

link.

Other interesting links

Top scoring schools
The Ivies
Iowa is 23/28
ISU is 22/28

I got a 33, how's that.

BTW, I hate seeing Grinnell. My stupid-ass* ex went there and graduated before she could drink~. I hate Grinnell.

*she’s obviously not stupid.
~legally, anyway

You're not stupid either. You know 33 is damn good.
My ACT score = potato
Do not believe

You’ve got far too much in that brain of yours to be equal to a potato. On the flip side, I llloooovvvveee potatoes.

Eh, my score couldn't see 30 if it was using Hubble.
The test is just culturally biased against you

Not a single question about Roman history or taxonomy. That’s racist!

Eh, I think my score hit me about right

marginally competent, but nothing that would shame a rather clever wombat.

I am absolutely impressed

if the potato is one of those ones that has taco meat, nacho cheese, and green pepper and tomato on it.

This comment has made me laugh more than

anything I have read in a long time.

So you claim

I’ve heard your score was really only firetruck

So true

and the worst part is that middling intellect does not run in the family.

Mine's bigger

//tucks metaphorical cock back in pants

Mine too

But really, anything north of 8 30 is nothing to be ashamed of.

This thread is making me depressed
Hey, I didn't have the endurance to finish my PhD

It’s not the quantification of your intelligence that matters, it’s your determination to channel what you have into academic achievement.

Whatever makes me feel better
& that is most definitely what I lack

My type A highly motivated younger sister has been known to say that the one thing she doesn’t think she could handle for a child is a ‘Jennifer’ (that would be me).

Then again, I’m pretty freaking happy with my life- so there!

You guys just like to patronize me

because you know that I was once hospitalized for having eaten too much food in a day.

Brazilian restaurants are dangerous
Mongolian BBQ buffet and a large pizza
Was there any THC involved in this?

Or were you trying to eat away the low ACT score?

I was already in college when it happened

I used to view all-you-can-eat buffets as a personal challenge. I have mostly been broken of that habit now though.

I have never done any illicit drugs.

I did drink a few times, but not much and not really any more.

There are a few I haven't done

But now I’m all about the clean living. 13 months of coffee as my only drug (well, occasionally a sudafed for long drives). Although when my coworkers who smoke come back inside sometimes I get a craving.

Eh

It wasn’t really much of a decision. Those things just don’t agree with my system. I really can’t even stand to take pain killers.

Keep up the good work.
Aww

I like that about you.

Sorry dude.

Discussion of ACT scores always makes me curious.

I’m usually pretty proud to say I got a 28 (that somehow got adjusted to a 29?)

And do the Ivy League schools take the ACT, or do they prefer the SAT?

You can use the ACT score, because there is a conversion but most take the SAT.

My sister just got accepted into jNW on a full ride and I haz a sad. Well more bitter/sweet.

They adjust?

If we’re gonna whip em out, I’m a 34

33 here.
Oh shit, I thought we were talking pant size.
And that's why you're a millionaire.

I don’t know enough about Clayborn-to-party to make a comment about him.

I am an underachieving college swimmer.
Well, I'll think of you as

Michael Phelps who is just willing to have more fun.

You probably wouldn't like me in real life, with regards to having fun.

I swim in California so…

As long as you're not puffing bong hits into my face,

I could probably go along, get along.

Test scores don't matter for shit when it comes to making money

I have several clients that would never even have considered taking an SAT/ACT and are now owning very profitable businesses.

Yeah, I know.

Although, if you can discipline yourself enough to learn enough in school to get a good ACT score, you will probably be able to do the same in college and in a career.

Pssh, ACT score comparisons are for amateurs.

GRE score-flashin’ is where it’s at.

GMAT 770/800

Even better there!

What do you do? I want to make money.
B2B Sales

That’s where the easy money is. (Mine is commercial insurance sales, BTW). Better money is starting your own company, but that’s also harder. Both are stressful as a mofo, so you’d also better have Delaney-level confidence (I do. It’s also one of my annoying traits at times)

If you’re interested in sales, every company LOVES former D1 athletes. It’s a signpost about work ethic and sacrifice, and also a decent way in the door, the hardest part of every sales job worth a damn. The other way is nice boobs and a pretty face, but I’m guessing neither of us has that going for us.

I'm good at sales.

Really good. When I’ve done it, I learn the product inside and out and have a personality that just creams “honest!” to people. Something I learned from waiting tables: girls can get by with a pretty face and a little flirting. I can get by with great knowledge and a connection. Or something like that. Just never had a want for it. Now I sort of do. Get me a product I actually like that, and I’m sold. hardeeharhar

Contact me when you're back from China if you're seriously interested
There are enough lawyers around here

that eventually we’ll start whipping out LSAT comparisions

I won't do that. I didn't study or try for that so I don't want to compare.

Embarrassing.

GRE 750/770 6.0 here
I knew we had some intelligent and interesting commenters here

but damn there’s some fine scores being discussed.

700/780 5

Me write pretty one day, PackerHawk.

To be fair

That score was only on my last test. I took it 4 times over 3 years as I applied for different programs, etc. I had a 5 and two 5.5s before that. I think the 5 was graded by a history buff because I made an argument that Truman deserves more credit than Roosevelt since he actually decided to drop the bombs. It was stupid but well written and argued. I regretted it as soon as I left the testing center though.

i had two hs buddies with 5 800's on their SAT's

one went to brown on a full ride and was a lawyer in four years
the other went to Yale on tennis scholarship
both were helacious bridge players

I would like to live in Providence for a while
No you wouldn't
I live in Lubbock, currently

Anything would be better

This is what's called

damning with faint praise

faint praise is better

than just damning

What are "5 800's"? I must be out of the loop.

One of my friends from elementary got a 36 on his ACT. Went to Princeton. Helped develop Wordnet 2.0. He knew a girl from Acadeca: as a freshman in high school, she got a 1600 on her SAT. To see if it was a fluke (according to him), she took it again as a sophomore. Got a 1600 again.

I feel so inadequate now.

It felt pretty good just reaching the 30 plateau.

Don't feel bad

I got a 27. Which was pretty good for a stoner about two years after HS graduation who hadn’t read anything more challenging than the TV guide.

27 represent.

not showing off.. not falling behind

I had a 25

in 8th grade. Sorry, I had to. Had a 1050 on the SAT in 7th grade. That wasn’t as impressive though.

Now we're talking!

I’ve found my people.

I remember when I got a 27 or 28, one or the other, people I knew at the time were surprised, because it was higher than they expected. Fucking so-called friends.

I am the family underachiever

They were happy with the score but, as any standardized testing always would, it led to more ‘if only you’d just apply yourself more’.

I was the opposite

Standardized testing always led to a look at the report card. But if you can coast to As and Bs why strive for a 4.0?

Oh, never mind. I see we have the same issue.

D’oh!

28 here

Although I read really slowly and only finished the math test. I got a 35 on that one. Higher math score than my brother who got a 34 overall. I never really liked the amount of time given. I always felt I should have scored a lot higher, but because I read more slowly I never got a chance to finish.

I've always been a very fast reader with strong comprehension.

Perhaps unfairly, it absolutely helped me it standardized testing. I wonder if you could have used your reading speed issues to get more time to complete the test. I know a few people who were able to do that.

I think I'm the outlier.

There’s a strong correlation between reading speed and reading comprehension. My comprehension is quite good, just not my speed. So for almost everyone who reads as slow as I do the extra time wouldn’t necessary mean higher scores, but for me, it almost certainly would have. I only got about 2/3 of the way through the English/Reading/Science tests and got about a 26 on each of them. I think if I’d been able to finish them I could have scored well over a 30 overall.

How this?

My average score was 31. My English section was 19. (I blame that on being deaf and not knowing how to speak until I was 6)

Wish I had gone to Iowa instead if ISU. Stupid Materials Engineering. Had I known I was going to end up with a degree in Chemistry instead, I would have done Iowa in a heart beat.

I had a similar problem.

36s on the math and science, but only a 33 overall.

And now you're a writer!

“only” a 33 overall? That is a damn fine score.

Nah, I'm a metallurgist

Hack Blogger is just something I do for fun

Yeah

but few schools outside the Midwest will accept the ACTs. At the time, I remember that all the schools out East (and Stanford) that I applied to wouldn’t accept my ACT scores

Yeah, that’s changed. My oldest now in sophomore in college – schools aren’t as fixated on SAT or nothing anymore.

That was becoming true as far back as 96

at least at the Ivies. I hadn’t intended to take the SAT I at all, but it was a prerequisite for a scholarship. Back then it was ACT or SAT, or ACT + SAT subject tests. (I applied to 4 ivies and UChicago).

Then it was a quick change

because I graduated H.S. in 1995 and I remember schools like Georgetown, Harvard and Duke not accepting ACT scores (or at least preferring SATs).

I only applied to Princeton outside of the midwest

And the class of 96 was preferred SAT but you could still get in with the right resume and GPA.

We'll take any in state recruit because

I’m mother Fucking Kirk Ferentz Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

All joking aside his yards after contact impress me.
With the inexperience on our line next year

that’s almost a pre-requisite

Seriously, next year's o-line is heartburn inducing

So many unknowns. Same with d-line.

Seriously, next year ’s o-line is heartburn inducing

Oh no! Not a prolific Iowa high school running back that wears number 3!
whats the over/under on how long he stays?

…I start it at 2 years

I'm already sad about his

ligament tear/concussions/academic indiscretion/unspecified violation of team rules/unintended pregnancy/call to join the clergy/disfiguring chemistry lab accident/bird flu/peanut allergy/overbearing mother/being eaten by wolves/etc., etc.

You forgot

meat festival injury/kidnapping/secret service recruitment/Leman-Stanzi presidential campaign employment/early graduation and transfer to Wisconsin/is paid by New Jersey mob to quit/witness protection relocation.

Thank you.

I also forgot point shaving/taking his talents to Canada/terrorist attack on Cedar Falls/kidney failure

I'm still waiting for one of them to be crushed

by a bale of hay at Solon Beef Days

We better keep Canzeri far, far away from Solon this summer...
can we start locking players in cages?

or is that unethical?

One Division 1 Coach

feels that they prefer electrical closets.

/Leach'd

God, I still wish he landed in the B1G.

Kept Klug (IIRC) in one back in 09 (IIRC).

According to one of the other players.

(My memory is shit on this one.)

You can not keep GULK in a cage for long.

it’s the fucking Solon Beef Days

Reading Cyclone Fanatic comments. Apparently Ferentz has only made us a

better team on the field due to Ferentz being “the laughing stock of college football as it pertains to discipline”. LOLWUT

More Caring is Creepy

From HR – Iowa just offered Robert Caldwell, a JUCO DE that was teammates with the other JUCO we were recruiting in December. Apparently Iowa’s in the lead. He’d be a good get and would help immediately to plug the hole that is DE on next year’s team.

Keep the hole pluggers coming,

that’s what I always say.

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