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(EDIT: Just use this thread as an open thread for the Iowa-OSU dual. - RB)

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I love this picture so much.

Of men and monkeys. The last time Iowa lost a dual meet in Big Ten competition? February 18, 2007, to then-#1 Minnesota. Since then they've run off 39 consecutive dual meet wins against B1G foes, including a 4-0 mark this weekend. But Iowa's two duals this weekend, a Friday night roadtrip to Ohio State and a Sunday afternoon delight against at Penn State will be two very stiff tests for Iowa's flawless B1G dual meet mark. One of the things that makes these dual meets so intriguing is the very different ways that each opponent poses a threat to Iowa. Ohio State will challenge Iowa's strengths, while Penn State will challenge their weaknesses.

Ohio State has four top-ten wrestlers, but three of them (133, 141, and 174) are at weights where Iowa also has top-ten wrestlers. Iowa's challenge in the Ohio State dual will be twofold: is their strength stronger than Ohio State's strength? And is their weakness less weak than Ohio State's weakness? (That phrasing was a little awkward, but you catch my drift.) This dual presents a huge number of 50-50 matches, which makes it very difficult to predict the outcome -- but should also make for a dramatic, exciting dual meet.

Penn State, on the other hand, is the funhouse mirror image of Iowa; where our strengths lie in the lower weights, theirs lie in the middle and upper weights. Iowa has three wrestlers ranked in the top-3 from 125-141; Penn State has three wrestlers ranked in the top-2 from 165-184. Iowa figures to be heavy favorites at three weights (125, 133, and 141), while Penn State figures to be heavy favorites at four weights (149, 165, 174, 184). That leaves three weights without a heavy favorite (157, 197, HWT); the outcome at those weights will be vital in deciding the dual and any upsets could be a debilitating blow for either side. And then there's the matter of bonus points. Iowa's recent duals against their other major rival (Oklahoma State) have been marked by a lack of bonus points, but that doesn't figure to be the case on Sunday. McD and Ramos have been bonus point machines this year (McD has bonus points in 16/19 wins, Ramos has bonus points in 14/19 wins), but Penn State has their own bonus point machines: David Taylor (bonus in 17/18 wins), Ed Ruth (16/19 wins), Frank Molinaro (15/19 wins), and Quentin Wright (14/16 wins). Taylor and Ruth are facing top-ten ranked opponents (though that hasn't necessarily stopped them from getting bonus points in the past), but there is a lot of potential for bonus points in this match. It will be critical for Iowa to (a) make the most of their own chances to get bonus points and (b) limit Penn State's chances to get bonus points.

Star-divide

Of course, there's also the matter of some notable monkeys on the backs of Iowa's opponents. Ohio State coach Tom Ryan has never beaten Iowa -- but that puts him in standard company among OSU coaches. Iowa's won 34 straight dual meets against Ohio State and has an overall record of 36-2 against the Buckeyes. Hello, domination. But the more publicized monkey is sure to be the one on Cael Sanderson's back -- he's 0-9 against Iowa (and Tom Brands) as a coach. He never beat him at Iowa State (that includes meetings at the National Duals as well as their annual dual showdown) and he hasn't been able to do it at Penn State, either. Penn State fans -- and probably Sanderson, too -- will no doubt remind us that they got the last laught last year by winning the Big Ten and NCAA titles, and they'd be right. But I'm sure that 0-9 mark irritates Sanderson (who's used to the "0" being on the other side of the win-loss record) and he'd love to finally get a dual meet win over Iowa.

For Iowa, the time for screwing around is over -- it's time to get into shape for the season's final home stretch. Shit gets real in terms of the schedule now: they have a pair of top-ten road tests this weekend, then a home dual with Minnesota (also a top-ten team) next week, and close the season with their last remaining lay-up, a home dual with Wisconsin. Then it's time for the National Duals (or "Mat Mayhem," as it's being called) and after that it's time to get ready for the Big Ten Tournament and the NCAA Tournament.

Let's look at each dual...

#3 Iowa (9-1, 4-0 B1G) at #10 Ohio State (8-2, 2-2 B1G)
Friday, January 20, 6pm CT
TV: video.BTN.com/Hawkeye All-Access ($$$)
RADIO: AM-800 KXIC (free) or Hawkeye All-Access ($$$)

125: #2 Matt McDonough (JR, 19-1) vs. #15 Johnni Dijulius (FR, 13-8)
Dijulius is a decent wrestler, but McD has been really ramping up his performance lately. He took apart a top-ten wrestler in jNW's Levi Mele last week, so I don't forsee him having too much difficulty with Dijulius.
McD MAJ DEC Dijulius (Iowa 4-0)

133: #2 Tony Ramos (SO, 19-1) vs. #4 Logan Stieber (RS FR, 18-1)
Here's the showcase match for this dual, as well as a potential Big Ten Tournament final (and NCAA Tournament semifinal?) rematch. Stieber is an excellent wrestler -- he handled Devin Carter (6-1), the only wrestler who's beaten Ramos this year and he's destroyed Purdue's Cashe Quiroga (a solid wrestler) twice. This will be a good test for Tony... but he's been answering every test (sans the Carter match at Midlands) brilliantly so far this year. I can't pick against him now.
Ramos DEC Stieber (Iowa 7-0)

141: #3 Montell Marion (SR, 17-1) vs. #7 Hunter Stieber (FR, 17-3)
This might be the other showcase match of the dual, with the younger Stieber brother taking on the unpredictable Marion. Stieber notched one of the season's most surprising wins (a 6-5 takedown of Michigan's Kellen Russell) earlier in the year, but he was also beaten badly by Nebraska's Jake Sueflohn (10-2), who Marion just beat last week. Marion probably had his best performances of the year last weekend -- that Marion is the one that needs to show up here. I think he will.
Marion DEC Stieber (Iowa 10-0)

149: UN Mike Kelly (RS FR, 12-5) vs. #16 Cam Tessari (FR, 14-5) or UN Alex Gordon (RS FR, 4-7)
This one depends a lot on the match-up; if it's Gordon, Kelly should have an excellent opportunity to add another B1G win to his resume, but if it's Tessari it will be a much tougher proposition. That said, Tessari isn't a worldbeater and his best win on the season is probably his late pin of Minnesota's Dylan Ness last weekend. This will be a very winnable match for Kelly, regardless of who OSU sends out. I just don't have that much confidence in Kelly yet.
Tessari DEC Kelly (Iowa 10-3)

157: UN Nick Moore (RS FR, 10-6) or #2 Derek St. John (SO, 11-0) vs. UN Josh Demas (RS FR, 15-6)
The official Iowa release doesn't list DSJ as being available for this dual, but I've heard that he will be available. Of course, if he does wrestle the question becomes -- how healthy is he? How sharp is he? How good is he now? If he goes, I think he wins a fairly close match. If he doesn't go, I think Moore-Demas is basically a toss-up, but I'd probably have to lean Demas because Moore has struggled so much this year.
DSJ DEC Demas (Iowa 13-3)

165: #6 Mike Evans (RS FR, 18-2) vs. UN Derek Garcia (FR, 10-7)
Here's a rare mismatch in Iowa's favor and it's imperative that Evans takes advantage and takes Garcia behind the proverbial woodshed. I think he'll do enough to get a major.
Evans MAJ DEC Garcia (Iowa 17-3)

174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 10-3) vs. #8 Nick Heflin (SO, 18-2)
Yet another primetime showdown in this dual; don't be surprised if we see several rematches from this dual in the semifinals of the Big Ten Tournament. This should be a close match: despite his gaudy record, Heflin doesn't blow out many opponents (only 2/18 wins have included bonus points) and Lofthouse rarely gets steamrolled. Edge to Heflin because he's at home and Lofthouse has looked like a different wrestler away from CHA.
Heflin DEC Lofthouse (Iowa 17-6)

184: UN Jeremy Fahler (RS FR, 8-4) or UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 6-5) vs. #10 C.J. Magrum (JR, 14-3)
Wagner will try hard and keep it close for a while, but he'll go down in the end.
Magrum DEC Wagner (Iowa 17-9)

197: UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-4) or UN Tomas Lira (SO, 8-6) vs. UN Andrew Campolattano (FR, 12-7)
Gambrall can win this match -- it's definitely doable. On the other hand, that means he'll need to be more active than he's been in pretty much every match and actually take more than one shot per match. Let's just say I don't have much faith in that happening right now.
Campolattano DEC Gambrall (Iowa 17-12)

HWT: #12 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 14-4) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 12-4) vs. #15 Peter Capone (SO, 12-7)
Telford is in the midst of a giant funk (four consecutive losses), which raises the possibility of Brands shaking things up and giving Blake Rasing an opportunity to strut his stuff. Either way, I think Telford either shakes off his losing streak or Rasing picks up a big win for the team.
Telford/Rasing DEC Capone (Iowa 20-12)

This meet could swing OSU's way, though: just flip the results at two of these four weights -- 133, 141, 157, and HWT -- and Iowa picks up a second loss to an OSU team this year. On the other hand, it wouldn't take much to see Iowa wins at 149 or 197, either, which could pave the way for a comfortable Iowa win. This one is hard to call.

#3 Iowa (9-1, 4-0 B1G) vs. #1 Penn State (7-1, 3-1 B1G)
Sunday, January 22, 1pm CT
TV: BTN (same-day delay at 9pm CT); no live video coverage
RADIO: AM-800 KXIC (free), Hawkeye All Access ($$$)

125: #2 Matt McDonough (JR, 19-1) vs. #8 Nico Megauludis (FR, 16-4)
Nico is good and certainly potentially good enough to hold this match to a decision... but McD seems to be on a mission right now. And, as we've seen in the OSU match, he knows how to answer the bell when the pressure is on for him to help out the team. The team needs bonus points from him and I think he'll get them.
McD MAJ DEC Megaludis (Iowa 4-0)

133: #2 Tony Ramos (SO, 19-1) vs. UN Frank Martellotti (SO, 6-1)
A year ago, Ramos scored the biggest win of his young career at this dual in the shocking upset of Andrew Long. Long is gone, though, and his replacement isn't nearly as good. Ramos should be able to pick up bonus points for Iowa here, too.
Ramos MAJ DEC Martellotti (Iowa 8-0)

141: #3 Montell Marion (SR, 17-1) vs. UN Bryan Pearsall (JR, 10-6)
Again: Iowa needs bonus points out of these first three weights to have a chance at winning this dual. The more the better. If the Marion that wrestled this past weekend turns up again here, he should be able to get some for Iowa.
Marion MAJ DEC Pearsall (Iowa 12-0)

149: UN Mike Kelly (RS FR, 12-5) vs. #1 Frank Molinaro (SR, 19-0)
Molinaro has been on a tear this year and looks like the odds-on favorite to win the national title. Kelly has had his struggles since taking over 149 permanently and frankly just holding this to a decision would be an accomplishment. He'll need to wrestle as well as he did against Jake Patascil in the Midlands to have a chance here. I think Molinaro takes him apart, unfortunately.
Molinaro MAJ DEC Kelly (Iowa 12-4)

157: UN Nick Moore (RS FR, 10-6) or #2 Derek St. John (SO, 11-0) vs. #8 Dylan Alton (RS FR, 14-4)
This could be a crucial swing match for the dual. If DSJ can go (and is healthy/sharp/etc.), Iowa will have a great chance to win it -- although it wouldn't be a shock to see Alton pull off the upset (especially if DSJ is, as you might expect, a little rusty). If Moore goes, I think Alton definitely wins. My hunch is DSJ wrestles and wins a very close match.
DSJ DEC Alton (Iowa 15-4)

165: #6 Mike Evans (RS FR, 18-2) vs. #1 David Taylor (SO, 17-0)
Evans is riding high after a triumphant performance against Nebraska's Robert Kokesh last week but he'll need to wrestle the match of his life here (although there's also some talk that Taylor has injured ribs and might not be at full-strength here, which would help Evans a lot) to beat Taylor. The way for him to beat Taylor is to attack quickly and aggressively and ride him hard. I just can't see that happening.
Taylor MAJ DEC Evans (Iowa 15-8)

174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 10-3) vs. #2 Ed Ruth (SO, 19-0)
And here's one of the dual's lone ranked v. ranked showdowns. Ethen came achingly close to beating him a year ago at Big Tens, but I have a hard time seeing that happen again right now. Maybe if the dual was at CHA, where Ethen seems to draw additional power, he'd have a chance. But here and now in Happy Valley? I don't see it. Ruth has been on a monstrous tear and I think he'll take Ethen apart.
Ruth MAJ DEC Lofthouse (Iowa 15-12)

184: UN Jeremy Fahler (RS FR, 8-4) or UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 6-5) vs. #2 Quentin Wright (JR, 16-2)
This might be the biggest mismatch of the entire weekend, frankly. Wright is going to destroy whichever guy Iowa sends out there. It would be very helpful if they could hold that loss to a decision, but I don't have much confidence in that. Wright is an excellent pinner (he's got nine so far this year) and I think he'll get another one here.
Wright FALL Wagner (PSU 18-15)

197: UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-4) or UN Tomas Lira (SO, 8-6) vs. #12 Morgan McIntosh (FR, 12-5)
Again, another match Gambrall could win... but you've seen his recent matches -- do you have faith in him? I didn't think so.
McIntosh DEC Gambrall (PSU 21-15)

HWT: #12 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 14-3) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 12-4) vs. #6 Cameron Wade (SR, 16-4)
Another match Iowa could win... but based on recent results, it's too hard to see it happening.
Wade DEC Telford (PSU 24-15)

Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong here. I hope Iowa pulls another shocking upset the way they did a year ago and makes me eat a gigantic portion of crow. But PSU seems like a particularly bad match-up for Iowa and I think they'll take full advantage of that and hand the Hawks their most comprehensive loss in five years.

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Comments

For some reason, I'm optimistic about Evans vs. Taylor

I mean, not super optimistic …

I'm just hoping Taylor doesn't leave the mat with trophy body parts.
Eh

Taylor is tough, but if you are good in a ride you always have a chance to turn a guy.

Thats what she said.....
I don't want to see that she
seriously though

Taylor will likely be picking chunks of Evans from his stool on Monday.

Probably

doesn’t mean that Taylor isn’t beatable

And the best chance to beat him might be a hail mary from the top position
Is that also a sex position?

I would imagine, if it is, it involves a lot of beads.

Yep

And if he’s injured, lungs might suddenly be an issue.

that's what she said

but please help me, I am not familiar with the Hail Mary move of which you speak. Does it involve strangulation or crushing blows to the groin area? That would make for excellent TV.

If Mike can get a half or a wing

he might be able to turn Taylor. Just saying, without the top position Perry only wins one National Championship.

I know what you are saying

I may be building Taylor up to much in my mind or maybe I have just listened to Rambler too much.

Dangerous game you are playing there
I have just listened to Rambler too much
I think Evans will do the same thing DSJ did last year

first one is a major, but by the time they get to Nationals youl be seeing a close match.

then again Evans is real mean on top and has competed against strong guys before was competing at 189 in high school at one point if im not mistaken . who knows, maybe Taylor will get beat.

Iowa loses PSU but beats OSU. OSU got handled by Nebraska didnt they?

They did lose pretty comfortably to Nebraska but, again, past results aren't always that useful here.

It’s all about match-ups and OSU and Iowa are pretty evenly matched. Our best wrestlers are going against their best wrestlers and our weaker wrestlers are going against their weak wrestlers. That leads to a lot of 50-50 matches that could easily go either way.

I feel I speak for all Hawkeye wrestling fans

Having a big fat fucking 0 – whatever for Cael’s record against Iowa makes me sleep better at night.

Cael's 0-9 as a coach in duals

But I think he’s also 0-fer as a wrestler too. I may be wrong here, but I think he lost each dual to Iowa as a wrestler. He won the individual battles, obviously, but lost the war.

Cael also lost to an Iowa wrestler his Freshman year

While wrestling unattached. Can’t remember the name of the Iowa wrestler though.

Word is

Rasing and DSJ are both starting. everything else is as expected

That wouldn't shock me if true

Didn’t Rasing beat Wade last year? I’ve heard both ways on DSJ – being held out for next week, going this week. We’ll see shortly.

Penn State is winnable if DSJ goes and we get bonus at the lower weights (as in a pin somewhere in 25-41). Without him, I don’t see it.

Does it seem as though Iowa wrestles away a lot in conference? They were at PSU last year, too, right? I call bullshit.

That's due to the Nebraska addition.

I think next year we get them at CHA.

That is what we call

slate bullshit

We have 4 home and 4 away duals

Illinois, Minny, jNW, and Wisco are the home duals this year.

Indiana, OSU, PSU, and Nebraska were the away duals.

The PSU thing is just a scheduling quirk.
The PSU guys

are already preparing their referee-bias defense

I expect PSU to underperform in more than one match....

the question in my mind is whether all the hawks bring their A game. If they do we walk away undefeated this weekend.

Agreed, though

This year’s team, with the young guys, isn’t quite as mentally tough as the team that walked into Happy Valley last year and took the win. Come on Telford, baby.

Montell is the biggest flake in my opinion.

He should be schooling everyone. Telford can be cut some slack when seniors play games on him.

I don't excuse Marion

but I think that Telford has been a little gun shy as of late. He can beat Wade.

What in the devil is happening with the BTN feed?
WRESTLING!!!!!
I am heading out to the car to listen on 800 AM.

I will check back later on. See you all.

McD starts
I prefer this

Seems like it’s been awhile since we’ve had a meet start there.

I agree

but this OSU is shit

this OSU guy
Well, then

Pin ’em quick & move this thing along!

0-1 OSU guy
Huh

That doesn’t look right.

2-1 McD

takedown off of Russian tie

Better

More points, please, McD.

McD is wrestling a hanger-on
This OSU just hung on an arm the whole first period

he didn’t do anything to work offense

0-0 in the second
Stalling on the OSU guy

McD is pissed

4-1 McD

on a reversal

This OSU guy is a fucking slug
OSU guy has turtled
Hit him with the stall point!!!
Are u asking or reporting?
Telling

Demanding

4-2 McD wins

that OSU guy sucked

Well that doesn't sound like an impressive McD match

bummer

The OSU guy

was a stall monster. McD looked okay.

I hate wrestlers that don't actually wrestle

What do u do w/that?

Fight through it.

Force the official to call stalling.

Come on Tony!!
Stieber has Ramos' leg
heavy hips on ramos
head to head pushing each other around the mat
Tony with a good shot
scoreless first period
head up tony
Thanks for reporting
Ramos getting rode hard
shouldnt have picked down tony
over a minute riding time
Ramos getting worked
Tony rode out entire 2nd period

ramos up in the third

5-0 effectively
Stieber

is going to back up this entire period

This looks pretty bad for Tony
ugh, has no one to blame but himself

your streingth is on your feet, why would you choose down ever?

oh come on

you go down because getting an escape is usually an easy point. You should be able to get an escape.

Live and learn. Tony will be smarter next time they wrestle.

if im not mistaken, tony has had problems getting out in the past as well
he has, but saying he should never take bottom is absurd.
He is going to have to escape at Nationals
Yeah.

And he got an escape against Oliver, didn’t he? He can do it.

Better to get pwned by Stieber now and figure out how to beat him at Big Tens and NCAAs.

I think he did get out from Oliver
He did b/c Oliver only had 1.08 of RT in the 2nd.
He is going to need to get out

if he is going to All American this year

133: Stieber DEC (7-0) Ramos
That is ugly
Eh

it was two moves essentially

7-0 Stieber wins
Tony tried a throw at the end

and it backfired

125: McD DEC (5-2) Dijulius

tied 3-3

Marion taken down

2-0 Stieber

Once again

Marion with shit leg defense

Stieber has a slick single
The Stiebers look like such prep school twats
Hunter and Logan
preppy twat names too
my point
Easy enough recable thread right here
Iowa is wrestling poorly so far
Marion riding well
illegal hold on Marion

3-1 Stieber

4-1 Stieber, escape
Stieber in on a shot
Marion looks asleep
Stieber backing up
Goddamn

Iowa looks fucking awful

Stieber riding tough
4-2, escape Marion
Stieber in on a shot

nothing

Marion with a leg
Hey, all. Just tuned in.

Hope we pick up the pace like 5 minutes ago.

141: Steiber DEC (4-2) Marion

OSU up 6-3

fuck

Montell maybe took one shot the whole match
Hope the rest of our team came to wrestle, because our studs have looked like shit.
OSU guy trying to throw Kelly
Kelly fighting tough
Kelly put on his back

just 2-0

2-1, escape Kelly
Kelly is always coming forward

causes him some trouble some

Kelly takedown off of shitty OSU throw attempt

4-3, reversal OSU

Ironside is not impressed with the officiating in this match
It is a little shitty too
Not looking forward to matches with the Stiebers for the next 4 years.
Kelly is an Iowa kid
He wrestles tough

a goer

Looks like there is :35 of riding time, not sure who that is good for though.
These OSU silver singlets place a little too much emphasis on their junk.
Well, it has all been freshly shaved
Trying to improve viewership from the junk loving crowd.
That's not the way to do it.
Oh. Well then. How would you do it?
I'm just saying it doesn't do anything for me.
Of course not. They're OSU after all. Now if it were some Iowa dudes...

I know you got the media guide or whatever with some good ol’ boys on there.

Iowa would never wear silver so I can't even imagine it.
True.

Black and only black as far as I can remember.

is OSU that good or have all the Iowa boys forgotten how to wrestle?
They are that good.

And we’ve forgotten how to wrestle.

Did you read my preview?

They have some good wrestlers.

No, I haven't had time this week. New job has been keeping me busy.
Oh okay.

Short answer: yes, they have some good wrestlers. We’re also wrestling poorly.

Bad combo.

Kelly trying to throw too

not sure why

5-4 OSU after escape
Kelly should try a shot here
Kelly has a nice shot
COME ON SCRAMBLE FOR IT KELLY!
Stalemate, nothing
Finally a SW against an OSU wrestler
Stalling warning
kelly taken down

7-4

Iowa may lose this meet

GAH

Kelly, Y YOU TRY TO THROW?

149: Tessari DEC (9-4) Kelly

OSU up 9-3

fucking fuck

Yet another douchey name

‘Cam Tessari?’

What, brutus trying to go all northwesterny

well, this is going swimmingly
DSJ in the house
"Just like football"
"Just like basketball"
fuck ohio state.
DSJ fights off shot
they stole that chant from us

bastards

DSJ taken down and hurts leg
In a lot of pain
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
un be levable

ok, fuck this meet

If DSJ defaults here

I don’t see Iowa winning the meet

we didn't even bother showing up for this meet.
Looks like DSJ is going
DSJ slow on his feet
that is quite a wrap on his leg
whole leg, basically
Actually, I think his one leg is actually just much paler than the other
that is weird
This meet is not good
DSJ needs to take a shot
He is not doing much
Yikes! What the fudge, Hawks?

I’m at work, so am I right to assume a flat effort?

DSJ not pulling the trigger on the shot
He has had some angles
nice takedown out of bounds

lol

Duck by OSU

4-1 OSU

DSJ looks like he wrestling on one leg
that wasn't a TD?
He couldn't get the far ankle
looked like he had it when demas was scooting OOB

oh well

I thought so too

but Iowa isn’t going to get a break tonight

These refs suck
DSJ had a nice shot

nothing

I'm sure our upper weights will save us.
Aw. video.btn.com, Y YOU NO WORK FOR ENERGIZERHAWK?

I’ll bite your bicep.

OSU backing up the whole time
DSJ in on leg

and OSU takes DSJ down

Iowa is fucked
Maybe

But we’re not big underdogs in any of the remaining matches, either.

I hope the middle-upperweights came to wrestle, though. The lower weights looked like shiiiiiit.

We had, what, 3-4 takedowns TOTAL in those 5 matches?

This just doesn't look like the way Iowa should wrestle
No, they look sluggish and shitty.

Like they trained right through this meet or something.

We deserve to lose if we’re gonna wrestle like this.

The offense is what is bothering me

Our guys just aren’t working enough offense

Professor Moriarty stole the offense?
Offense is non-existent but

I’m annoyed at the defense, too – we come out way too flatfooted and give up easy TDs. We need to be sharp from the whistle. We’re not.

Yes

Guys get to Marion’s legs way too easy

Yep, that's been a consistent issue for him.

Kelly gave up an early TD too.

If Kelly wrestles like that against Frankie he’ll be lucky to just get majored.

I don't know why Kelly would go up top with that guy

it doesn’t seem like his game

But our offense looks anemic

Which is NOT what we’re used to seeing out of Iowa. Guys need to be able to attack from different angles if their favorite looks aren’t there

We aren't just not getting td's we aren't taking shots
But it's been something we've seen the last two years

I’ve been wondering what’s going on. I’m a little worried about the trend.

FIRE BRANDS~!

No, I don’t know. I do think youth is part of it. Guys tend to build more diverse attacks with experience.

Even Gable had some mediocre teams (not saying this is a mediocre team)
I agree, it doesn't seem like Iowa has been nearly as offense oriented.

Which is odd given the type of wrestler Brands was.

I don't know.

I think people have an idealized version of what they think guys should wrestle like at times.

This is not at all beyond the scope of probability
Like they trained right through this meet or something.

Brands has grown on me real quick, personality-wise, but I think it’s the intelligence behind it that is so charismatic. He totally could be deemphasizing these dual results, training-wise, and focusing anew on peaking for March.

Could really use a pin from Evans here.
157: Demas DEC (7-3) DSJ

OSU up 12-3

What a fucking disaster.

DSJ is in pain

hell of an effort to finish that match

bad bounce right there for us. This is the disaster show.
The last half of the lineup needs to step it up
If DSJ is going to look like this, he should just shut it down for the rest of the year and heal for next year.

He’s not going to do much of anything.

He is hurting pretty bad
It didn't even look like his leg got twisted that bad early when he was writhing in pain.
Nope

looked like a hyper-extension off the double

I wonder if he went tonight because we needed him

or to get a match before PSU.

No idea, but he doesn't look close to ready to be compete at a high level.
Brands won't wrestle someone cause the team needs it.
Well we know its nothing too serious right?

I mean if he needing something major done he wouldn’t be back. So I am thinking he tore something?

I think he has a torn or partially torn ligament.
That was the scuttlebutt after the UNI match.

His lack of mobility here would seem to support that.

He reminds me of M* trying to gut it out a few years ago.

but he was so nimble cheerleading the last few meets
Heh.

Turns out that wasn’t a good indicator for his health/ability!

Anthony deleted his facebook.

Problem found.

Nevermind I found him on my list. He just turned searchability off.
3 takedowns in 5 matches guys. Just in case you missed it.

Just got on here. Not looking good huh, guys?

so yeah, next year should be fun

ugh. its like a car wreck. i dont wanna watch but i cant look away

next year?

why would next year be worse?

i actually meant it should be fun literally

i like the guys coming in, i think the team will be alot better next year

I doubt many of the guys coming in next year wrestle.

Maybe Burak.

Also wondering.

MM is the only ranked wrestler we lose. And guys like Kelly, Evans, and Lofthouse will get a huge benefit of being in the room another year.

this is great listening to Ironside. He is fired up
He is dying inside
huh
Luke Eustice: Carew is…….. as healthy as he wants to be. I doubt you will see him this year
Let's roll through 5 matches. Come on Hawks.
I feel like.

Without the caption. I feel just like this hawk at this moment in time
Not what I was expecting to find when I got home from work.

I think I’ll start with the whiskey a bit earlier than planned

Come on Mikey!!!
us winning this meet rests on Wagner, Gambrall and Raising

fuck

argh.

Let’s go, boys. This ones on you.

2-1, escape Evans
4-1 Garcia

another low single

Kill this pud, Mike
Ironside says Evans looked dead tired
what the fuck, did they drug the water or something?
4-2

Garcia cut Evans

r u serious clark?
This is just shitty wrestling

this Garcia is not any good

and shitty officiating too!

hooray

Bullshit call to deny Evans 2
what was it?
Potentially dangerous

it was fucking bullshit

That is a bullshit potentially dangerous
man, another one?
Reversal Evans

a little energy now

"That might be the worst call I've ever seen.. ever"
Yep
that was Ironside's quote

heh

These things make me want to shell out money to btn.
I'm annoyed that I pay $15 a month and still get a stupid Jaguar ad when I load up something in All Access.
the refs have been shitty all night

shitty wrestling + shitty refs = shitty night

Evans is punishing this fuckwit

nice aussie linguistic usage.

Be gentle on Sunday, plz.
That takedown they gave Garcia was bs too
I wonder if Brands had them just training their asses off after the jNW match.

They look like they have no energy which is highly unusual.

They haven’t looked like this since Midlands last year, I think

Maybe

looks like it

Evans just likes to give up that single
he works offense that way
David Taylor will tear his leg off on Sunday if he does it there.
That was the exact same position they gave Garcia 2 last time
Garcia stalling hard
Ref waiting forever to stalemate
Garcia stalls way to win
That guy is a fucking bush league pud

I can’t believe Evans lost to him

If you're just gonna hand a guy your leg, I can see how you'd lose.

Ugh

Yeah

still, that guy was so bad

Hopefully Evans gets a rematch at B1Gs and throttles him.
he will

I have no doubt. That guy was terrible

Iowa could blank these punks if they wrestled the way they should
165: Garcia DEC (6-5) Evans

OSU 15-3

This is fucking stupid.

ok, im done

goodnight everybody

well, on that note, I'm off to work for a bit. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
This officiating has been awful.

Almost as bad as Iowa’s wrestling.

That last match was terrible
Lofthouse got 2

Only second time in the meet Iowa has led in a match, I think

Can Ethen give some of this Mormon meanness to the rest of the team?
Ha

Do you think this is a trap meet for Iowa?

I wonder

EL up 2-0 w/ 2min RT
Quick quick escape call there
So random point but College Scorebook has Kyle Dake winning two matches against Penn State??

http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/results/ColScorebook/WrestlerInfo.aspx?SchoolYear=2012&ID=37799

4-1 EL after 2
I am currently thinking of what could comfort me after watching this display

I think it almost has to involve boobs in some way. Unfortunately, that isn’t much of an option tonight.

Even this match isn't that good
165: Lofthouse DEC (7-1) Heflin

OSU up 15-6

How did that OSU guy get out of that without a stall point?
The radio guys said they did give EL a stall point
I didn't see it

these refs are stingy.

poop

Good performance against a good wrestler, but I would have liked to see the major.

Iowa needs a pin somwhere
I think Bobby can score a major if we can get it there
Telford isnt wrestling

Rasing is

wait that wasn't Heflin at 174

they bumped him up at 184

So I guess EL beat some backup. Even more annoyed he didn’t get a major now.

what the hell is going on with vinnie's left knee pad?
Iowa just has no fire tonight
except ethen, kinda.
kinda
I thought he started great.

Didn’t finish off the 3rd period that well

0-0 after 1st
vinnie doesn't look much bigger than heflin
Vinnie getting tired of this bullshit hand fighting
Heflin just grabbing hands and standing

fuck him

rec'd

(pardon for being behind; still tryin to scroll thru.)

referee pat fitzgerald?

THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING

I thought that when this thing started
fucking pat fitzgerald
Caution on wagner?

fuck that

Maybe this is all a really elaborate rope a dope strategy for PSU and we'll come out guns blazing on Sunday

(No, I don’t really buy that)

This is competely fucked Ross

How does a whole team wrestle this far below their ability?

I have no idea.

The only good news is that I know they aren’t this bad.

This was just some sort of perfect storm of badness. We’ve seen them wrestle better. We know they don’t suck this much.

I know

This is like the bermuda triangle of wrestling

Just so you know

It’s not a liveblog for 2. I’m following, I just don’t know what to add other than…
ffffffffuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk.

You anger me, sir
Vinnie just collapsed

This is an Iowa loss

184: Heflin DEC (7-4) Wagner

OSU 18-6

This one is all but over.

I wonder when the last time was that we didn't even get TEN team points in a dual.
This is so bad
Chances Brands won't do an interview?
He will call out every one of those guys
Eh

that won’t be the best strategy.

These guys maybe need a little tender care
There you go Grant

Nice takedown

holy shit gambrall takedown

the end times are upon us!

wouldnt it be ironic if Gambrall gave the best effort on the team

after the last few weeks?

Can't see the meet,

But from the comments, I’m scared that Brands may eat someone.

im hearing rumors that he has already killed Marion and chucked him off the only cliff in Ohio

dont quote me though

I'd be more scared if I was a walk-on.

Could be weeks before anyone notices they’re gone.

jesus, grant really?

that was an easy escape

dammit, gg, finish that

happy he’s attacking, though

Grant is too weak at this weight

I am not sure what the answer is, but he is just not strong enough

Gambrall reversed

5-3 Camp

That was like a reversal in slow motion

WTF

GG watches Camp look at the clock

R U SERIOUS

THE.WORST.WRESTLING.EVAH
5-5

Grant takes shot and can’t pull it in

GG doesn't have the big maxi pad on his head today.
Tom Ryan assuming super douchey pose
Nice Shot GG

and nothing

Grant taken down 7-5 Camp
On the bright side, GG has shot more in this match than the last 4 matches combined at least
Grant wrestling in slow motion
Camp up 7-5 with 30 sec left
I am going to murder something tonight

i

The announcers think it is the crowd that has made the difference

they are fucking idiots

Yeah, 4000 cuntface Ohio State fans really intimidated our guys.

/roll eyes

Ref gives camp a point for grabbing headgear

bullshit

197: Camp DEC (8-6) Gambrall

OSU up 21-6

Iowa loses.

My heart hurts
did the entire team get hit by Ryhabdo?

this has to be the shittiest overall effort from an Iowa team i have ever seen

Oh hey guys just sto

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

the horror..........the horror.......
Bring Back Jimmy Z
Blake with nice shot

and…2

Blake Rasing and Grant Gambrall are our most aggressive wrestlers tonight

I quit.

I bet he gets the pin here just because
First OSU win over Iowa since 1966
Hey, guys, Iowa wrestling will be looking at a new streak after this weekend!
/shakes fist sadly
At least there are fights on FX to take your mind off this epic collapse.

I had to watch La Niña while the wife was working so I completely missed it. Checked twitter just in time to see Hamilton post the 18-6 team score. Now I’m glad I didn’t get to experience it in real time.

it was horribawpitiful
Yeah

and it will be in their underpants

I've seen NF points given for less than what Rasing had there.
Wrong singlet for that tonight
the refs didnt give Iowa a thing tonight

not, one. thing

DANCE SHAVED BEARS DANCE
If it weren't for Fran and the basketball team's resurgence...

…you’d have to wonder what in the world our entire athletic department is doing.

End of the day, its only one meet
One terrible meet
Exactly.

And this is a relatively young Hawkeye team, isn’t it? Wasn’t 2012-2013 always supposed to be the big year for this group?

yeah, were getting really promising recruits at weak weights like the 40s and 80s-90s

and everyone but Marion comes back.

still………….this was bad

Gambling on bird migrations
FIRE EVERYONE

HIRE THE GUY WITH THE CUNTY SCREENAME TO FIX EVERYTHING

Ha

Are you referring to me? I will make you all proud

I don't think your screenname is cunty enough to qualify for the position.
No, I think you know who I was referring to.

He’s been banned, btw. I’m tired of his trolling act.

If the Honey Badger nickname weren't so entirely played out you'd have earned it over the last couple months, sir.
I give a lot of fucks actually because I put up with him for a long time.
I guess I hadn't noticed him.

I’ve had lots of practice ignoring people as the offseason progresses and I think I may be getting much better at it.

Hah-hah-hah-hah!

Tried to ban me, eh? Still here!

Like a committed whack-a-mole
But your pants are gone.
Even my wife has grown fond of me!

I’ve lost my edge.

It sucks to say,

But in the grand scheme, Sunday’s is the more important meet, to say nothing of the Nat’l Duals, Big Tens, or Nationals.

You have to be thinking about seeding

This was more important for some guys

True,

But if guys are in the right place at the end of the year, seeds could mean very little. It does make it much tougher, to be sure.

Maybe

but it is better to see the # 1 seed on the finals podium than in the quarters or semis

Truth. Lose-lose for the Hawks tonight.
Yeah

Tony probably won’t be able to do better than 2 seed now.

Marion I’m not sure. Maybe 2-3? I don’t know what other B1G guys are doing at this weight.

Kelly is guaranteed a shitty seed regardless.

Best case for DSJ was 2-3 seed… not sure it matters if leg is that jacked up.

Evans needs to try to get a 2-3 seed to avoid Unicorn until the finals. It’s possible since he has a win over Kokesh. And I think this was his first B1G loss.

Ethen is looking at a 2 seed right now, which is good.

Wagner is guaranteed a shit seed.

Gambrall ditto.

Rasing might be able to get a good seed. He’s 2-0 against B1G competition… haha

I think Ramos and Marion are the guys who cornholed their seeds the most.

Ramos was cruising to a 1 seed if he beats Stieber tonight.

Marion I dunno. The fact that he and Russell didn’t wrestle this year was always going to make that tough to call. Plus I haven’t kept track of what Dardanes has been doing at Minny.

Sueflohn majored Stieber who beat Marion who beat Sueflohn. That’s quite a logic pretzel.

.
Plus I haven’t kept track of what Dardanes has been doing at Minny.

Yeah, he’s not so much in Marion’s mix. Apparently them Dardaneses is twins n shit. I thought, erroneously, that Chris (133) was younger, cuz he was behind Thorn the Younger and doesn’t go all bonusey aggressive. But, if you’re talking 141, then it’s Nick, who’s 11-4, ranked #14 and has losses to Cornell’s now-unranked Nevinger, NC State’s #13 Darius Little, #7 Stieber and ….Minny’s backup at 141, Seth Lange!, in Consi R1 of the Scuffle.

im thinking the Iowa team thought so too

only way i can explain this bad performance

i almost want to go in with all backups and see what happens, just to send a message

Seriously,

What the fuck is your problem? Do you solely come here to bitch?

Oh, and then I read some comments below it

Thank the higher powers for that. Sick of his shit.

Also, and I realize I may be in the minority, but I care not one fuck

for dual tournaments.

How's about Archer's return to TV, you guys?

Pretty awesome, wasn’t it?

so.....did Rasing win?
Yes, 6-2 DEC, I think
WOOOOOOOOOOOO

IOWA FOR LIFE!

OSU wins 21-9
Positives

Rasing looked pretty good, Gambrall attacking more, Vinny fights really hard

Negatives

Everything else

Ethen was a positive.
who did he beat again?

ethan was a neutral. he just did what was expected of him, maybe a little less

That's true

I keep forgetting he didn’t beat Heflin.

AHHHH.

Who the fuck are these guys? Jon Anik and KenFlo calling the fights on FX? fart noise

What the fuck can Goldy possibly be doing to not call this event?
No idea.

I don’t like it.

At least Brittney Palmer is around to make up for it.
Thanks for the reports.

Just stopped to see what happened. Kinda sorry I did, but thanks anyway. Off to Mexico at 3 am tomorrow.

Enjoy the donkey shows, sir.
Here haw!

Thanks.

Fuck

I mean hee haw dammit! Damn spell check. I better get free wi-fi somewhere, cuz I’ll be jonesin for some BHGP for the next week. Adios.

Kinda glad I missed this.

Hopefully it’s just a throwaway outlier.

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