1. Mike Daniels, DT; The Iowa defense played better in November than they did in September. Mike Daniels was healthier in November than he was in September. I don't think these two issues were unrelated. Two years ago, none of us really knew who he was; he'd seen spot duty in 2008 and 2009, but nothing that led us to believe he'd start in 2010. But start he did and he had a solid season (40 tackles, 11 TFL, 4 sacks). He became the leader of the defense with the departures of Clayborn, Ballard, and Klug and had a fine season (66 tackles, 13 TFL, 7 sacks). The Iowa defense (and defensive line in particular) struggled last year, but not because of Mike Daniels. He won't be easy to replace.
2. Shaun Prater, CB; Always a bit more beloved by pundits than Iowa fans, Prater was still a three-year starter who leaves Iowa with 7 career interceptions, 19 pass break-ups, 4 forced fumbles, and 2 touchdowns. His coverage struggled some this year with two new safeties behind him and he never quite reached the heights of Amari Spievey, Bradley Fletcher, or Charles Godfrey, but he was a very reliable cog in the Iowa pass defense.
3. Broderick Binns, DE; Binns disappeared in 2010, but he rebounded in 2011 with a good senior campaign (59 tackles, 11.5 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 8 pass break-ups, 6 QB hurries) and, like Daniels, proved to be a bellwether for the Iowa defense: when he was playing well, the defense as a whole was pretty solid, but when he had an off day, the defense struggled. Inconsistency aside, Binns' presence will be missed -- most notably, those crazy go-go gadget arms (responsible for a whopping 21 credited pass break-ups during his Iowa career).
4. Jordan Bernstine, SS; Bernstine had one of the most starcrossed (and injury-riddled) paths to the field of anyone at Iowa in the last decade, but he finally got there in 2011, swiftly earning a starting gig. He quickly earned the nickname "Boomstine," but was not the same playmaker at SS as his predecessor, Tyler Sash (Bernstine was credited with 3 TFL, 2 pass break-ups, and no forced fumbles or interceptions).
5. Tyler Nielsen, LB; After biding his time behind A.J. Edds for two years, Nielsen got a starting job last season -- only to lose it 2/3 of the way through the season to a broken freaking neck. He returned from that injury in 2011, but dealt with other nagging injuries as well as a position switch to MLB. His play was solid enough (73 tackles, 4 TFL, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble), but also a bit anonymous at times.
6. Thomas Nardo, DL; Despite being the fifth wheel on the defensive line for much of the season, Nardo wound up second among defensive linemen in tackles (66) and third in tackles for loss (6.0). He was the rare out-of-state walk-on (from Pennsylvania) and though there was rarely anything splashy about his play, he was arguably the third best lineman Iowa had this year.
7. Lebron Daniel, DE; Daniel was an occasional starter at DE for Iowa in 2011, but he put up modest stats (31 tackles, 1.5 sacks) and may be most remembered for his struggles in keeping contain on the edge.

1. Micah Hyde, CB; A two-year starter, Hyde enters 2012 as the most experienced member of the entire Iowa defense and the leader of the secondary. Through two years, Hyde has seven interceptions, 15 pass break-ups, and two memorable touchdowns. He made an ill-fated move to free safety to begin 2011, but soon found his way back to CB, which is where he figures to stay. How he handles being the top cornerback could determine much in terms of the success of Iowa's pass defense.
2. Dominic Alvis, DE; A player who may not even be healthy enough to play on opening day checks in at second on this countdown? That says a lot about what we know (or think we know) about the state of this defense heading into 2012. But Alvis is the only returning player on the defensive line with significant experience and while he was painfully inconsistent in 2011, he flashed enough good moments to make you think he could be pretty decent in a year. There's no telling how much of a setback his ACL injury was, though.
3. Steve Bigach, DT; And Bigach would be the second-most experienced defensive lineman returning for Iowa next year, with 24 tackles and 1.0 sacks to his credit in 2011. Given the upheaval along the line, you can pencil him into a starting role (at least at the beginning of the season) and considering the importance of the defensive line to Iowa's defense, we'd better hope that Bigach is able to have a Mike Daniels-like transformation from unknown into productive starter.
4. Darian Cooper, DT; There are going to be a lot of new faces on the defensive line next year -- one of them will hopefully emerge as a star. Cooper, perhaps Iowa's most highly touted DL recruit since Adrian Clayborn, seems like the safest bet to be that guy. He spent 2011 redshirting and building his body for B1G play; hopefully he's ready to hit the ground running.
5. Carl Davis, DT; Davis has been a source of fascination for Iowa fans since his arrival, since he was so obviously different from the typical Iowa DT prospect -- we're so used to the bulked-up Mitch King/Karl Klug projects that a guy who steps in the door at 6', 300 lbs registers as a novelty. Alas, thus far his skills haven't been able to match his size, so the hope is that another year of practice and offseason conditioning has done the job on that front.
6. Louis Trinca-Pasat / Riley McMinn / Mike Hardy / Melvin Spears, DL; Are we sensing a theme here yet? It's been a truism for as long as Kirk Ferentz has been coach at Iowa and likely won't change with the installation of a new defensive coordinator: as the Iowa defensive line goes, so goes the Iowa defense. LTP and Hardy are redshirt freshmen who were expected to push for playing time in 2011; that they apparently couldn't steal minutes from the likes of Daniel, Nardo, and Bigach is not terribly encouraging, but it's certainly too soon to apply the dreaded bust label. McMinn and Spears are rising redshirt freshmen who spent their redshirt years adding bulk to their frames; if anyone is likely to be the next Klug or King, it's likely to be one of those two.
7. Christian Kirksey, LB; To be honest, Kirksey feels too low here, considering there's a very good chance that he'll be our best defender in 2012. Hell, if you wanted to argue that he was our best defender in 2011, I think you can make the case. Per the pundits, James Morris was the linebacker tipped to make the leap to stardom as a sophomore, but Kirksey was the one who came closer to that level. He's emerged as a very strong linebacker, skilled in coverage and run support. He's still a touch undersized, but another year of offseason conditioning and practice should give him the potential to be one of the Big Ten's best in 2012.
8. B.J. Lowery, CB; There was a fair amount of buzz around Lowery during fall camp, but his progress was derailed by a broken wrist that kept him out of action for the first month of the season. He played often as a nickel corner late in the year, though, and looked solid; his coverage on the final series of the Michigan series was instrumental in securing that win. He appears to have the skills to lock down the other starting corner spot opposite Hyde.
9. Tanner Miller, FS; Miller was the beneficiary of the early season move that send Hyde back to CB from FS, but he had a rocky first year as a starter. He tied for the team lead in interceptions (3), but he was also caught out of position fairly often and struggled in coverage. The hope is that a year's worth of experience will pay off for him in 2012, in the same way that Brett Greenwood's painful 2007 paid dividends in 2008-2010. Frankly, there aren't a ton of other options at S right now.
10. James Morris, LB; A little low for the guy purported to be "the next great Iowa linebacker," but the early returns on Morris haven't lived up to that hype. Injuries and inconsistency made 2011 a fairly forgettable one for Morris, as he ended the year being moved out to WLB. He seems like a more natural MLB than either Kirksey or Hitchens, though, so a move back to the middle seems likely; hopefully he plays at a higher level there than he has in the past.
11. Anthony Hitchens, LB; When nagging injuries took Kirksey, Morris, or Nielsen out of action at various points in the 2011 season, Hitchens was often the next man in at LB, so with an opening at one of the starting LB spots (courtesy of Nielsen's departure) he figures to be the favorite to nail down that spot. Whether it's at WLB or OLB is TBD, but he looked promising in his fill-in appearances last year.
12. Nico Law, S; He's been a favorite of Iowa fans since he committed a year ago, thanks to a gregarious personality, a solid highlight reel, and a fun name (never underestimate the importance of a catchy name in winning over fans). He made an impact in 2011 as a special teams demon, frequently getting in on tackles on kickoff coverage. Bernstine's departure opens the door for a new starter at SS and people's choice will certainly be Law. Whether or not he'll be the coaches' choice depends on how quickly he can pick up Iowa's defensive schemes.
13. Greg Castillo / Torrey Campbell / Jordan Lomax, CB; As a more-experienced upperclassmen, Castillo is nominally the favorite to land the other starting CB instead of Lowery, but Castillo's play in the past suggests that even if that's true, he'll have a hard time keeping the job. No, the more likely reality is that he, Campbell, and Lomax will battle it out for a role in Iowa's nickel coverage. Campbell redshirted in 2011 while Lomax played sparingly and both are probably more likely to make an impact on special teams in 2012, but cornerback is a spot where young guys have been able to earn early playing time, so they're worth watching.
14. Quinton Alson / Dakota Getz / Jim Poggi / Shane DiBona, LB; Iowa's linebacking corps has been the walking wounded for much of the last two years, but if they're healthy, they should provide Iowa with some options at those positions in 2012. Alston is a quintessential MLB and it's certainly possible that he could push Morris for the starting spot there. It's unclear where Getz, Poggi, and DiBona fit into the picture, but they should have the opportunity to battle Hitchens for the unclaimed LB gig.
15. Joe Gaglione, DL; Gaglione has played inside and outside during his tenure at Iowa (when not injured, which hasn't been very often), but he's rarely distinguished himself. He'll be in the mix in 2012, but we're not expecting great things from him.
16. Colin Sleeper, S; Sleeper began 2011 as the starter at SS, but that experiment didn't last long and when the secondary was rejiggered, he was the odd man out. He played sparingly after that (just 14 tackles on the year) and his inconsistent play combined with his Insight Bowl indiscretion means that there's plenty of reasons to believe that he's the low man on the totem pole when it comes to the secondary.
Blooding youngsters then, success now? It's not true at all levels of the defensive line (cough cough defensive line cough cough), but there's been a bit of a youth movement at work for the last few years at the LB and DB levels. Guys like Micah Hyde and James Morris now have two years worth of starts under the belts and Tanner Miller and Christian Kirksey have significant experience as well. They've all shown flashes of strong play in that time; now the onus is on them to play at a high level consistently and lead the way for the Iowa defense.
Recruit *s, ???, profit! Given the fairly extensive rebuild job on the defense this year, it's gratifying to see that Iowa's defensive recruiting over the past few years has been strong in terms of star ratings and offer sheets (and also they're (mostly) still here, which is a victory in itself right now). Alston, Cooper, Law, Poggi, Davis, Hardy, and LTP (among others) were all 3-4* talent and most of them had offers from several other BCS schools. On paper, at least, there appears to be talent for Iowa's defensive coaches (new and old) to work with -- that's a good start.
New blood, new ideas? Losing Norm Parker sucks and we'll undoubtedly miss his defensive acumen, but a new defense doesn't automatically mean a worse defense (although given the massive reboot on the defensive line, we should probably give the new defensive coordinator a bit of a pass this year, regardless). New blood can bring new ideas, which can be a very good thing. Iowa's defense has been very good (good enough to be the backbone behind several 10-win seasons, as well as giving Iowa the opportunity for several other good seasons), but it wasn't perfect. Hope springs eternal and the injection of new defensive coaches at Iowa could be the jolt the program needs to rouse it from its current slumber.
In Norm we no longer trust. On the other hand... Norm Parker was one of the top defensive minds in college football and his ability to craft (mostly) rock-solid defenses out of whatever parts were available and to mold unassuming players like Chad Greenway or Karl Klug into high-end players coveted by NFL teams was invaluable to Iowa. He won't be easily replaced and as much as we might want to hope for improvement on the defensive side of the ball, it's probably more realistic to expect some sort of a decline. As frustrating as the dogmatic obsession with 4-3, "bend but don't break," quarters coverage, and corners giving receivers 5-7 yard cushions could often be, the end results usually made it worthwhile. We now enter the realm of the unknown when it comes to the Iowa defense, which is disconcerting.
About that defensive line... It's going to be rough. Let's just get that out of the way now. It's a virtual certainty that 2-3 freshmen will be playing extensive minutes along the defensive line and even among the upperclassmen who might play (which would be Bigach, Gaglione, and, um.... that's the list), there's not much in the way of experience. You can probably count the combined returning starts among defensive lineman on one hand. The last time Iowa had a defensive line this inexperienced was 2005, when King and Kroul began their fruitful partnership at DT and Bryan Mattison and Kenny Iwebema had the unenviable task of replacing Matt Roth and Derrick Robinson at DE. There was pain aplenty for that group that year, although the good news is this: they got better. Better by the end of the season and better still in the ensuing years (especially King and Kroul). But there will be pain in the short term.
A lack of safety. Like good defensive line play, good safety play is vital to a good Iowa defense and that's something that was largely absent in 2011. Miller and Bernstine were painfully inconsistent in 2011 and now there will be another new face in there in 2012. There figures to be a lot of pressure on the Iowa secondary in 2012 and a lot of its strength will depend on Miller's improvement and the ability of Bernstine's replacement to play well early. But we should probably prepare ourselves for more pain -- more miscommunication, more blown coverages, more big plays conceded -- here.
A star is born. Inexperience -- and a lack of options -- creates opportunity; chances are at least one player will seize that opportunity and make a name for himself in 2012. From Tyler Sash in 2008 to Karl Klug in 2009 to Micah Hyde in 2010 to Christian Kirksey in 2011 there's always one guy who emerges as a player and someone whose strong play proves invaluable to the defense. And as you can see from that list, it's rarely the player you expect it to be. Which means I have no idea who it might be in 2012. But there will be someone and depending on who that player is and just how good he is, it may change a lot for this defense.
Injuries, transfers, and suspensions oh my. This is a given for any team in any year, but it's still true: injuries, transfers, and/or suspensions could absolutely change the face of this defense -- and not in a good way. Iowa can't afford any misfortune to strike the few proven players they have returning on defense, but they also can't afford it among the vast number of players who aren't yet proven commodities. We need as many options as humanly possible.
Deus ex defensive coordinator. Maybe all of the dithering and delay behind the hiring of a new defensive coordinator has been a smokescreen and Ferentz has a big-name hotshot candidate lined up that will turn heads, get recruits to flock to Iowa City, and set us up with a bounty of talent and a brilliant set of defensive schemes to utilize it, allowing us to take the B1G by storm. Hey, I never said it was likely, now did I?
There will be much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments as the new-look defensive line struggles to get pressure on opposing quarterbacks and struggles to maintain contain. Overworked linebackers will too often make tackles too far downfield while an inexperienced and inconsistent secondary will fail to force turnovers at a high clip and also concede more than a few big plays. The 2012 Iowa defense is not going to be a vintage Iowa defense. It's just not. It's not going to make you forget about the 2004 or 2009 incarnations. There's too much turnover, too much uncertainty, and too much inexperience at play. The best thing to do is probably to hope for two things: one, that it can at least be competent this year (in other words, don't bottom out -- we're not Indiana, for god's sake) and two, that these growing pains are the precursor to the birth of much stronger defenses in 2013 and beyond. (It's conceivable that Iowa could return every defensive starter except Micah Hyde in 2013.) And I don't think those are unreasonable goals: there is talent among this crop of defensive players (just precious little experience) and the experience they gain this year absolutely should pave the way for better times in the years ahead. In the meantime, strap in -- it's bound to be a bumpy ride.
Once again, a hearty terrorist fist jab to Brian for the format.
2 recs | 143 comments
We're several years into
recruiting to the wrong model on the D-line. We got seduced by the success of King and Klug. That model is broken. We were getting plowed backward 3 yards on every play all year. We’ll have to score 35 a game next year to have a winning record.
I_am_Querulous_Yellow - January 18, 2012
Well Cooper, Davis, and Jaleel (if he signs) should assuage your anger then.
The beef on the o-line is a welcome change too. BEEF!!!
One_ill_KevinJ - January 18, 2012
What anger?
I_am_Querulous_Yellow - January 18, 2012
Oh dear. Apologies for misinterpretation.
I just assume it’s the default tone when speaking of Iowa football these days.
One_ill_KevinJ - January 18, 2012
Says the guy with the querulous handle.
And I reiterate:
Voltaire was a well known coffee addict not just Balzac.
Lukateake - January 18, 2012
Exactly
that’s my one reason for hope with a young d-line next year: at least they won’t be so woefully undersized as King and Kroul were when they started out. Still won’t be pretty, just hope it isn’t as ugly
HoyaGoon - January 18, 2012
What about all the 4* recruits Tom Bradley is bringing?
WELL??
Notclevr - January 18, 2012
these epilogue posts have me super depressed
HawkeyeInExile - January 18, 2012 via mobile
Me too.......
I always tend to look for the bright side of everything but I’m completely convinced the Hawks will be 6-6 next after starting 5-0. Check out the schedule.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/big-ten/2012-iowa-hawkeyes-football-schedule.php
arhuse - January 18, 2012
Really?
I don’t see PSU getting it together, Indiana is Indiana and we get Purdue at home. I’d say AT LEAST 7 wins due to our schedule being laughable. I mean, that’s assuming we actually win the games we should*…which are the first five games.*
mikjones24 - January 18, 2012
Let's all just take a breath
and let 6 months pass.
One_ill_KevinJ - January 18, 2012
Nope,
we will be .500 at best from now on. We might as well buy double-wide trailers in Houston, because that is the only Bowl we’ll be making for the next decade.
What is that brushing the top of my head? OH MY GOD! IT’S THE SKY! THE SKY IS FALLING!
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
That is an easy schedule
It can’t hurt.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
Why do they still put the Championship game on our schedule?
It is just a waste of ink.
Also, we will not be 5-0. Northern Illinois is a legit program and always plays tough. Combine that with our seasons always starting out rocky and I see an upset. Iowa State is primed to make a run next year and it would not surprise me if they are favored to beat us (and then they do).
That being said, I still believe 7 wins is possible next year…in basketball.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
I think it's pretty unlikely Iowa State will be favored to beat Iowa in Iowa City.
Northern Illinois is definitely a quality MAC program but they also lose virtually their entire starting offense.
RossWB - January 19, 2012
As have we!
Something in common!
HoyaGoon - January 19, 2012
We really don't.
We return a starting QB (JVB), two WRs with a good deal of experience (Davis, KMM), two TEs with some experience (CJF, Derby), a starting FB (Rogers), a starting C (Ferentz), and a few other OL with some starting experience (MacMillan, Tobin).
NIU returns like one offensive lineman and two receivers. And (most importantly) they lose all-everything QB, Chandler Harnish.
Could Iowa lose that game? Sure. But I’m not going to lose sleep over NIU at this point.
RossWB - January 19, 2012
Way to ruin my gallows humor
with all these “facts” and “comparisons”! Killjoy.
HoyaGoon - January 19, 2012
Also, our recruiting has been better than NIU's.
So I feel more comfortable about our new faces than theirs.
RossWB - January 19, 2012
NIU is the game in the first 5 that scares me the most.
Not only due to the quality of the opponent, but mostly because it’s not in Kinnick Stadium.
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
If ISU doesn't worry you
then you have not been paying attention to that rivalry. it WILL be a dogfight.
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 19, 2012
That's true, although I expect it to basically be Kinnick Stadium East for that game.
It certainly was in 2007. It won’t be a hostile environment by any stretch. (Unless, of course, JVB starts short-hopping passes and still can’t pick up a blitz…)
I would rank my worry for the games as…
1) Iowa St
2) UNI (seriously)
3) Minnesota
4) NIU
5) Central Michigan
RossWB - January 19, 2012
UNI loses Rennie (running QB that they relied on too much) and Boothby (best defensive player).
Unless the Iowa offense is a literal dumpster fire (like, I mean, can’t score a TD and misses a ton of FGs), then the Hawks should win. Probably by 7 to 10 points minimum.
/remembers 17-16 game when the Hawks were #22 in the land.
//Shudders.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Unless they get Derby
HoyaGoon - January 19, 2012
We'll see.
Did Jake Christensen light it up at EIU?
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
I think he did pretty well
not so much against Penn State, but in general. Plus, we’re playing UNI this year and 2014, so we could face Derby twice.
HoyaGoon - January 19, 2012
Rumor has it Derby is headed to Coffeyville JUCO in KS
which likely means there for a year, then to an FCS team.
Brock8144 - January 20, 2012
I'd guess FBS team after the JUCO time.
If he wanted to go FCS he should do so now.
The Mexican't - January 20, 2012
Yes
I mixed up the 2. Meant FBS after JUCO
Brock8144 - January 20, 2012
Then to
Oklahoma? OK St? KSU?
Man, I really hope he doesn’t end up at Nebby or Wisky.
WaterlooChazz - January 20, 2012
My brother brought up the interesting possibility
of KSU. Not that he has heard anything, just that, if he’s already headed to JUCO in Kansas, and he would fit their offense. But who knows.
Brock8144 - January 20, 2012
Insight Bowl was a pro-Iowa crowd to.
The demographic makeup of the crowd is irrelevant. If the game is played outside of 319 area code, then we have problems.
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
We were also playing Oklahoma, so there is that.
clay-born to party - January 19, 2012
About Morris
at 6’2 227 (Official UI website) he seems a bit undersized for the middle. Maybe he finds his way to an outside position next year to make room for a new guy in the middle. Who would be the top candidate to play MLB.. Alson?
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
the thing I am hoping
is the flashes of good play he had last year are developing into the norm, not the exception. Another off season of lifting and study should serve him well.
we have a pretty long and glorious history with undersized MLB’s; here’s to Morris continuing that tradition.
The Bacon Explosion - January 18, 2012
I see a 3-4 happening.
Alvis, Cooper, Davis, Ekakitie, Johnson all along the line. Morris, Alston in the middle. Hitchens, Kirksey on the outside.
Okay, I don’t really see that happening. Of course, it would be interesting.
tyger1147 - January 18, 2012
I don't think we have the size for it
To play a 3-4 you need big dudes who can fight through contact to make plays. Ideally you have a NT who can’t be moved out of the hole even with three Badger interior linemen trying to push him out. Athletic, massive NTs are very rare. at the college level.
I could be totally wrong though, I only know enough to be dangerous.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
ALSTON!!!
I am so high on this guy (see above exclamation points), and I don’t mean high, like he smokes alot and may get kicked off the team.
With an extremely limited sample size*, he ALWAYS makes great form tackles, is fast enough to cover people in passing situations and strong enough to take on OL and stop the run. He’s the next James Morris.
*I also predicted Tuffy Rhodes would be the savior of the Cubs after his 3 opening day HRs.
Auto rec Tuffy Rhodes?
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
Auto ban, Tuffy Rhodes.
I’m guessing you are still waiting for the press conference to announce Jeff Samardzija’s Cy Young Award?
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
That's fine
But it still doesn’t solve the NT issue.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
If he does, it's another reversion to the old model
Ferentz said last year that he was playing guys like Hitchens and Kirksey at WLB because they needed speed against three- and four-receiver sets. Morris might be small, but more than that he’s slow. If they move him to WLB, it’s a concession that the experiment (which I honestly believe didn’t look great not because of the linebackers but the fact that they had to cover receivers for 7 seconds because there was no pass rush) failed and should be scrapped.
Patrick Vint - January 18, 2012
Thanks for pointing all of that out
I knew that we felt we needed more speed on the field but didn’t know that it was most specific to WLB. Edds must have been WLB? That guy could cover.
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
Lack of speed
is actually part of the reason Neilsen was switched to MLB and Morris was moved to WLB. Neilsen was slower still. After that I have to say the linebacker play improved greatly in 2011.
RandomHero - January 18, 2012
Nielsen's glass frame contributed to his slowness
He was pretty speedy before injuries.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
Edds was on the strongside over the TE
Brock8144 - January 20, 2012
He was the B1G Leading Tackler leading up to the jNW game
In which he sat due to injury. Or am I thinking of Nardo? Either way, Morris was leading the B1G in tackling before the injury. If we can’t use that as a promising sign, what would be something we could consider to be a good sign?
hawkinsandmelrose - January 18, 2012
And by Nardo
I meant injured pre-jNW, not leading tackler.
hawkinsandmelrose - January 18, 2012
Yeah,
I’m not buying the “Morris is a disappointment, let’s switch to a 52 Buddy Ryan defense because of his failure” line of thought.
Morris may not be Greenway 2.0, but I think he’ll be serviceable-to-good for the rest of his Iowa career.
Unless he transfers, in which case, he has not talent and can GFY!
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Have we heard any buzz about these young guys?
I have hardly heard a mention of guys like Cooper since they signed the LOI.
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
Buzz based on actual performance in games?
No, because outside of Morris, Kirksey, Hitchens, Alvis, Miller, and Lowery, none of them have played meaningful minutes.
There’s been some buzz for several guys based around practice performance and such, but how much credence you want to give that is up to you. I recall reading good things about Mike Hardy in the lead-up to last season… and then he promptly never even sniffed the field, despite playing at a position where Iowa was not exactly loaded.
RossWB - January 18, 2012
I was asking about practice buzz
it seems like sometimes we hear a guys name come up a lot in pressers but that seemed to be pretty quiet this year. (or I was not paying much attention)
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
Yeah, I don't recall hearing much in-season this year, either.
RossWB - January 18, 2012
MasCasa mentioned in one of the On Iowa podcasts (I think)
that Cooper was with the team on road trips, which he took to be evidence of the coaching staff’s faith/high expectations for him since he was redshirting – the idea being this way he was able to get a feel for a hostile atmosphere on the road.
HoyaGoon - January 18, 2012
Practice Buzz?
Jesus, this drug problem is a bigger scourge than I thought.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
2007 defense begat the 2008 defense.
So is the 2012 defense the former or the latter part of that equation? I’ll expect the former while hoping for the latter.
YouCanPutYourEddsInIt - January 18, 2012
Another ridiculously outdated meme that needs to go the way of the dodo.
The 2007 Iowa defense was excellent. In fact, when you factor in the absolute abortion that the offense was that year, that was a unit every bit as good as the revered groups of 2003-04 and 2008-9.
They finished 12th in the country in scoring D, even while being hamstrung by the 110th scoring offense in the nation shitting the bed repeatedly to put them in untenable situations.
You had King and Kroul as juniors, frosh Clayborn and Ballard seeing significant minutes, Iwebema was a SR and I believe is still in the NFL, as is Mattison (albeit on OFFENSE), Humpal had one of the great unheralded one-shot seasons in Iowa history, Edds was a full-time starter, Klink wasn’t too bad in the middle, and the freshman that filled in when he was injured and later transferred wasn’t too awful.
The secondary had a senior Godfrey and a frosh Greenwood at safety. They completely shutdown one of the top offenses in the B1G that year, Illinois, in a ridiculous 10-6 win.
Defense was absolutely not a problem AT ALL that year.
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
Instead of worrying about the defense next year
I’m going to try and keep my expectations in check and have fun watching some good players emerge. There are going to be rough spots and growing pains, but I think we will see some players step up and show the first signs of stardom with will come to fruition in 2013.
/glasshalffulled
Enoch - January 18, 2012
What I will really be watching for is improvement
If this younger batch of players is as talented as the recruiting services would have us believe then we should see a team that has improved drastically from the opener to the (hopefully) bowl game. That would be a positive sign for the future of the program (coaches and players alike)
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
Agreed.
It’s nice that we’re already establishing that this D will probably not be very good. Takes away the sting in mid-October when they can’t stop anyone.
And it should be encouraging with so many players returning for 2013. Time to take some whoopings now so we can dish them out later!
One Night Stanzi - January 18, 2012
Oh we'll go to a bowl game
we’ll finish 4-8 and have to petition the NCAA but they’ll probably have added atleast 3 more bowls by then.
In all seriousness, we will probably see 11 Big Ten teams go to bowl games in an upcoming season. Goddamnit College Football.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
Prater has been impressing at the East-West Shrine Game.
At least according to a couple scouts
Sounds like he may be a third rounder. Maybe he’ll restart the first pick of R3 streak.
The Mexican't - January 18, 2012
Since he went to my "rival" high school, and that he turned down Pellini, gives me a soft spot for him.
I hope he gets to a team that uses the perfect scheme for him.
tyger1147 - January 18, 2012
Agreed
unfortunately, the Cover-2 doesn’t seem to be quite as in-vogue anymore, and therefore I think the number of perfect fits for him dwindles. Not that I don’t think he could be good in any other schemes, but I think he’s at his best in zone.
Brock8144 - January 20, 2012
Doesn't the DC job posting close today?
Meaning we’re in “any day now” mode by morning. There don’t even seem to be RUMOURS of who they want other than “it won’t be Phil Parker”.
Flakbait - January 18, 2012
At one time, yes
But it has been pushed back to the 25th (or 26th—there’s another listing for a generic football assistant; one of the listings has the 25th as the ad end date and the other has the 26th).
Captain n Diet Coker - January 18, 2012
Rumor has it that Ron Prince keeps on pushing back his interview date
Dammit Ron, just take the job already.
mikjones24 - January 18, 2012
Kirk can't make up his mind between Ron Prince,
and Greg Robinson.
So flip a coin. A two-headed coin. And heads means we’re going with Ron Prince.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Put down the Fleetwood Mac, bro.
SomeJerkPoster - January 18, 2012
Won't you lay me down in tall grass and let me do my stuff
down down down down/down down down down/down down down down
ba ba
dow-baba-down down
sailorjerry - January 18, 2012
Don't tell him what to do.
He can go his own waaaaaaaay!
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Prater.
He was described as having a bad senior year by one scout of the Shrine Bowl. So, people are aware that he didn’t live up to expectations last season. Still a strong career at Iowa for Shaun.
Pretty happy with how our defensive recruiting has gone the last two classes. My expectations are that Cooper, Law, Fleming, and Faith E. are first or second team All-Conference types going forward. Whether they will be like that next year…
Steven Dailey - January 18, 2012
I think it is very rare to have a freshman on the DL
make a huge impact. the position is so incredibly physical that few guys have the body for it out of highschool.
SaturdayMorningKegStanzis - January 18, 2012
Right, and tempering my expectations for the young DL for that reason.
That said saw several true freshman DL who made impacts this year. A couple for ND. So, while not expecting a lot from the true frosh(expecting a little more from Cooper)I’m expecting at least one or two to step in and play some immediately. A harsh learning curve but it’ll probably be needed to be done.
Steven Dailey - January 18, 2012
Absolutely correct. Slight addendum:
Especially rare in a 2 gap defense.
One_ill_KevinJ - January 18, 2012
Jerel Worthy
I thought he did pretty well against us his freshman year. He was 285-290 though if I remember correctly. There just don’t seem to be nearly as many DT candidates available in the midwest compared to what I see on some of the southern and western teams.
GuttedSnowBird - January 18, 2012
Yes, but with players leaving school early at an increasing rate
In both FB and BB, the impact that Freshmen are required to make gets earlier and earlier. We started a true freshman at running back, and although not the same position as far as physical requirements go….
What the hell. I’m just trying to be optimistic. Cooper and Davis and LTP are no longer freshmen, and at Iowa that means you might as well be a senior.
hawkinsandmelrose - January 18, 2012
When did Iowa start a true freshman at RB?
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
Insight Bowl, 2010.
One Night Stanzi - January 19, 2012 via Android app
So which game is the true frosh going to start next year?
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
Probably the Insight Bowl
Flakbait - January 19, 2012
recrecrec
recerec
mikjones24 - January 19, 2012
I can remember when I used to
make fun of Minnesota’s perennial/constant presence in Tempe.
/I miss Tim Brewster.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Or was that Glen Mason? Either way.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
I'm pretty sure we won't next year
Hearing rumors that Brian Ferentz has been using Aaron Hernandez at RB for the Pats during the playoffs as a test to see if Derby (Zach, obviously) can pull it off for Iowa. Based on the Denver game, it looks like he can.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
Its not true
Until I see it on Twitter.
The KF Karate Chop - January 19, 2012 via Android app
Because
if the New England Patriots with a Hall Of Fame QB can make a particular idea work on offense, then obviously a mid-tier NCAAF team can make it work.
Also, they would need to convince Bellicik to give it a try. I don’t think Brian Ferentz has the pull to decide who is going to be RB.
Flakbait - January 19, 2012
Ummm,
NE has used about 78 RBs in the last 6 or 7 years.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
I was being facetious
In reality, I just hope these FR RBs pan out and that Canzeri gets a lot better.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
between these young guys and the young guys coming in this year
im actually liking how this Defense will look 2 years from now
next year though? it will (probably) be a bloodbath
justsomehawkeyefan - January 18, 2012
I see Alton winning the MLB spot
I like Morris as an OLB. i think thats his natural position. hopefully the Iowa defensive coaches agree with me
justsomehawkeyefan - January 18, 2012
His ankle did not last year.
He was hobbled by that all season, pretty much. Hopefully, if that’s what the coaches are thinking, he’s working on speed over the summer.
One Night Stanzi - January 18, 2012
It's too bad Morris was forced into action in 2010
He really could’ve used a redshirt that year. I hope his lack of speed was due more to the ankle injury he battled from about the first week of October on than to a genuine lack of mobility on his part. That said, it wouldn’t shock me if Alston jumps into the MLB spot and the other spots are filled by Hitchens and Kirksey. Too often Morris was holding guys in the secondary and looking completely overmatched in coverage.
And I agree – the defense could be good in a couple years. The 2010 and 2011 classes plus guys like Johnson (assuming he signs), Faith, Lile, Ott…they have some good prospects in the system. Unfortunately, they’re all young. And the 2010 guys haven’t stepped up yet.
Nickhawk08 - January 18, 2012
I'm glad he had the opportunity to play his freshmen year.
Its only gonna help him out in the experience aspect. He was atrocious at coverage, probably/hopefully due to his injury. Pass coverage is 80% discipline/experience and 20% natural talent unless of course you’ve got 4.3 speed.
Unless he puts on 10-25lbs of muscle over the summer I can see him being moved to OLB. We haven’t seen too much of Alston so I think MLB is still TBA. Kirksey is a solid starter.
The defensive side of the ball is the only part of this team I’m excited about for the future, the offensive side…not so much.
IAinCA - January 18, 2012
Hitchins seems to be getting pretty big
Maybe he can do MLB
GuttedSnowBird - January 18, 2012
He's still barely 6'0 and 215 lbs
long way to go to get him to MLB size
HoyaGoon - January 18, 2012
Oh.
I guess he looked bigger than that to my eye. Darn. The injured guys maybe (Poggi Getz and Dibona may have better size?). But at least a couple of them had bad injuries; one had an achilles and we saw how that did in Persa this year. Hopefully they can play a role….
GuttedSnowBird - January 18, 2012
we'll see
none of those guys you listed have any real PT except maybe a few ST plays so the learning curves on them are huge. I’m still wishing we could get that Sam Maresh kid from Iowa Western as a juco transfer. Kid is just a natural/talent MLB.
Yeah, he’s had his troubles at Minny, but it sounds like he’s finally got his shit together and he’d probably be able to play right away.
IAinCA - January 18, 2012
http://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Maresh-12907
IAinCA - January 18, 2012
He played at Minny so he has gotta be good right?
clay-born to party - January 18, 2012
lol, barely
he dealt with health issues then drank himself off the team. I know we originally recruited him heavily…
IAinCA - January 18, 2012
Health issues - as in Brad Rogers style heart issues times 10, wasn't it?
YouCanPutYourEddsInIt - January 18, 2012
Yes, he had a heart issue
coming out of high school that initially went undiagnosed until just before he enrolled at Minn. It was supposedly fixed by surgery.
There was a feature article on him by the Star-Trib earlier this year and it didn’t sound like he had changed his drinking habits to much. He also has no offers from anyone per Rivals, so not sure I trust that 247 link.
It’s also several weeks past the start of the JUCO signing period and I have not heard any updates on his recruiting from any network or team site anywhere. It likes his football career is probably over unless he wants to play DII/III or NAIA ball the next 2 years.
i_love_iowa - January 19, 2012
I'm not sure I agree with the "It's only gonna help him out in the experience aspect."
I suppose one could argue that it will help him in the more immediate short-term, but even that I’m not sure about. If he redshirts his frosh year, he stills gets a big opportunity to play a lot this past year. Only, he had another year of working out and getting bigger.
tyger1147 - January 18, 2012
If 2011 had been his first season, everyone would hate him and think he's turrible thanks to his injury.
Eyeheartfreedumb - January 18, 2012
but if he had redshirted the whole world would have been altered....
…and maybe he wouldn’t have gotten hurt, and then he would have been a bright spot going forward along with Kirksey et al.
I dunno. I’m just rambling now.
tyger1147 - January 18, 2012
To be fair
a lot of the bloom had come off this particular rose long before his injuries derailed him. Go back and look at “The Takeaway” from the ISU game.
HoyaGoon - January 19, 2012
True
The trial by fire v. learning from the sidelines has always been an interesting argument. I always thought learning on the field was the best, but Aaron Rodgers kind of proved that wrong.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
proved?
therealCatnuts - January 19, 2012
Sorry
I meant probed.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
You mean,
Brad Banks and Ricky Stanzi didn’t help you figure that out?
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
If he didn't play in 2010,
then Bruce Davis doesn’t quit, and we never have to see the emergence of FlyingDutchman.
My 3-ring binder says that’s win-win-win.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Do you really think,
at any time, Morris didn’t get enough time to work out and get bigger?
I think he’s spent more time in the Iowa weight room than some of the S&C staff over the last 4 or 5 years.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
who had that four step comment with
3)?
that was fucking brilliant. nice nod ross.
sailorjerry - January 18, 2012
South Park.
The Underpants Gnomes episode.
Lukateake - January 18, 2012
Not to be overly nit-picky
but I think Lomax played this year, largely on ST and in the rare dime packages (or when we subbed out defensive starters).
HoyaGoon - January 18, 2012
Apparently he had 7 tackles, so right you are.
RossWB - January 18, 2012
Which leads me to believe
that Castillo will probably be the starter in Week 1, to be supplanted by Lowery/Lomax/Campbell by Week 3 or so.
HoyaGoon - January 18, 2012
Ugh.
Lord have mercy on us all.
mikjones24 - January 18, 2012
String Theory and Playing Greg Castillo
2 things I will never understand…although I am closer to understanding string theory (wait, so it’s just a bunch of strings?).
Seriously, I get that he won the “Fan Gets to Play For a Day” contest in 2009, but dear Lord, this is out of control.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
Doesn't Tom Knight
have a kid we could give a nepo-tastic scholly to?
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
I'd prefer Merton Hanks
Thank you very much.
mikjones24 - January 19, 2012
How 'bout both?
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
MY TWO DADS!
SomeJerkPoster - January 19, 2012
Not what I meant, but okay.
However, I will never want a child of Paul Reiser on the Hawkeye football team.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Yep. ST and junk minutes v. UL-M I recall.
One_ill_KevinJ - January 18, 2012
Pretty sure he played a few minutes in the jNW win, cause I got all excited that Lowery was back from the broken arm early.
But someone pointed out that it wasn’t and we figured out that I saw Lomax.
(Good story, right?)
Eyeheartfreedumb - January 18, 2012
I actually remember this thread
Not sure that speaks to anything but my BHGP obsession.
HawkeyeGirleye - January 18, 2012
Lowery is the breakout star for 2012
and Kirksey is too low. If we get a Norm clone for defense, then our D-line drop off is going to really smart. If, on the other hand, KF hires a totally outside the box, blitzaholic as DC then our LBs become much more important.
StoopsMyAss - January 18, 2012
With the LB corps the way it is, being blitz-happy could get fun and interesting.
Eyeheartfreedumb - January 18, 2012
I'd love to see a 2-down lineman scheme worked in every once in awhile. Or a one-down lineman scheme...
tyger1147 - January 18, 2012
One down lineman would be amazing
You never know who’s coming after the ball. So ridiculous it would be highly entertaining. I guess that’s what would happen if Mike Martz coached defense.
therealCatnuts - January 19, 2012
The Ryans have done stuff like that
The Jets used to do it against the Pats quite a bit, although I don’t recall if they stuck with it this year. The idea is that everyone is constantly shifting pre-snap, to try to confuse the offensive reads. That might work against the Patriots, because they’re so pass happy and because Brady reads the field and changes plays so easily (and the entire offense can execute those calls in real time), but against a team with an actual power running game you need to be in position to hold your ground.
If you are shifting around or starting a yard off the ball and the offense runs an iso play up the middle, they’re guaranteed 3-5 yards per pop and have every chance of breaking one further.
Notclevr - January 19, 2012
Silver Lining
Maybe Kaczenski was actually terrible? He couldn’t do anything with four NFL linemen in 2010, and he couldn’t develop young talent in 2011. Maybe he destroys Nebraska’s line? Maybe he’s a pyscho? No, not maybe.
BTW, this post is called Silver Lining because that is what I want to use in the coffin of Hawkeye Football after the 2012 season.
TangerinePony - January 19, 2012
/TrueFan’d
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
I am hoping that with another year of seasoning
Lowery can become a salty veteran and turn out to be a truly savory concoction.
DrHenryKillinger - January 19, 2012
This post is truly flavorful.
BStylin Hawkye - January 19, 2012
I just hope we don't use him to mask a overcooked defensive scheme.
SomeJerkPoster - January 19, 2012
an*
SomeJerkPoster - January 19, 2012
Bravo.
Now you’re cooking.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Ross, you almost never write bad posts,
but this one was very well-written. You’ve got something snappy.
If you are putting together a writing portfolio, you should put this in it. If not, I hope Jacobi plagiarizes it and puts it on CBS SportsLine/Sports.com/FanHouse/Whatever.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
Yeah, maybe you can set something up with Bleacher Report.
Shoot for the stars!
SomeJerkPoster - January 19, 2012
It's weird, but I'm scared.
I don’t think Nico Law starts for a long time. And not for lack of talent. He reminds me of another player that was really good with social media, but I can’t remember his name, all his highlights seem to have been removed. I remember he spent a lot of time in Kirk’s doghouse, but, again, not for on-field problems.
kurthy - January 19, 2012 via mobile
I'd think you'd remember Kevin Kasper.
WaterlooChazz - January 19, 2012
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