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Iowa vs. Northwestern Wrestling LIVEGAMEOPENTHREAD

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Time for MOAR WRESTLING.

Iowa's back in action today against Northwestern, in a meet that features several rematches from Midlands. It's also a meet that, on paper, Iowa should win rather comfortably.

The meet begins at 1pm CT. Television coverage is on Mediacom 22 and video.BTN.com/Hawkeye All Access ($$$), while radio coverage is the same as always: KXIC 800 (free) where available in Iowa and Hawkeye All Access ($$$) elsewhere.

The normal open thread rules are in effect: no links to illegal online streams, no porn, no politics, no religion, no slurs, and no douchebaggery.

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Mediacom 22: better than nothing
How dare you challenge our Mediacom overlords.

ALL YOUR CABLE ARE BELONG TO US.

True enough.

Standard def hurts my eyes

THRILLING FIRST PERIOD
These heavies are wrestling like drugged bears
Just got home

Starting with HWT, I assume?

the KXIC feed on All Access appears to be playing Kings of Leon rather than Ironside/Grace
Telford loses in OT 7-5
7-2 mcD end of 1st
And mele reverses him to start the second

WTF? Reversal? Come on, McD.

Yea he was snoozing. Just got it back tho
has there ever been a tv display

that shows:
-team score
-match score
-riding time
all the the same time?

Be a lot cooler if they did
I can't remember one
Reversal to injury TO for jNW
McD looked solid
4-3 Iowa

Houston is keeping it close

Ramos!
Short story time

I grew up a basketball player. In my highschool and college years not only did I never go to a wrestling meet, I made fun of wrestlers on a regular basis. “Look at those guys wearing spandex and grabbing each other.. derpaderp.” Due to my obsession with BHGP and RossWB’s writing I have started to pay more attention to the sport. First, just Hawkeye stuff but yesterday I went to a highschool tournament here in Iowa. Watching wrestling live is an absolute blast. I have started to pick up on rules and strategy enough to understand what is going on and watching the kids from my school of choice compete was an absolute blast. I really wish the sport got some more mainstream attention because I do not have Mediacom or Big ten network and as a result rarely get to see the Hawks in action. Keep the updates coming in this thread, i’ll be following. Thanks to Ross and all the other wrestling fans for helping make my “conversion” possible. (still love hoops but seriously Wrestling is a fantastic sport)

Get to Des Moines for the state finals!
This will be happening

I went for about an hour last year to make an appearance (job related) but this year I"m going all in.

Yesssss
I follow Don Bosco pretty close and am hoping to have a lot of them down there to watch
Good choice
Congrats!

Have fun

I'm stoked to go to my first mountain HS dual next week

They take it waaaaay seriously at a few of the schools down here in Appalachia. Seriously enough that the refs get a little worried on the way out of meets.

I'd love to see Marion just go in and dominate

seems like its been a while

He is fun to watch when he is aggressive
He always takes so long to warm up.
Well McD and Ramos are taking care of business
Ramos feasted on his oppenent
Eustice thought that McD was going to turn mele

when the injury TO happened. so close to a TF….

Ramos is in BEAST mode this year

Unfortunately I feel like i’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and something bad to happen with him. I think that is my Iowa football attitude showing through.. always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

ooh, already a stall warning on Greco
Ha. I don't blame him! Marion is sharp today
Marion looking sharp so far
"keep it legal"

lol

Marion's oppenent wants this match over. He is outclassed

14-6 after 2

Greco is broken
Montell cut him with :10 in the second

and got another TD. De-moralizing.

Yeah, no kidding

I was all “Why are you letting him get a cheap escape point with 10 seconds left, Marion” and then BOOM TAKEDOWN. I guess that’s why

His shoulders are fucked
Which is funny

Cause you’d think with a name like Greco, he’d be a better wrestler.

*ba-dum-tish*
THIS

is the Marion we love

I feel bad for Greco
Someone get that boy some Advil

Or some bourbon

Marion wins via TOTAL OWNAGE
two 14-point wins

I’d like to have the extra two bonus points for tech falls (no backs for marion, so it didn’t matter, but)

hahaha

:02 left, Marion just pushes down on Grecos head to get up & walk to the center of the mat

Last 3 matches have been awesome.

Pure Iowa aggressive domination. F U jNW!

Montell found his mean side.

Very nice to see.

Friedly's got quite a little fro
Kelly is tenacious
Since we seem to always start at heavyweight

I’m assuming that they start at 125 and work their way backward until the coaches can agree on a starting weight. Is that right?

Also, is there a difference between backward and backwards, and which one should I have used in that last sentence?

No.

If there’s no mutual agreement between the coaches, they go to a random draw. Iowa basically always wants to start at 125 (for obvious reasons), so if the other coach disagrees they go to a random draw. I’m guessing that’s what happened here.

That's what I thought before

It just seems weird that the last 3 meets have all started at heavyweight.

Nebraska started at HWT
gah

I mean, Nebraska started at 197. Gambrall got Iowa’s first win.

So McD looking like McD

Ramos looking like McD and Marion also looking like McD… i like where this is going

I don't think I've ever seen McD

punish a guy like Marion did. Pushing his face into the mat and throwing his elbows around with bad intentions. I was loving it.

Rough

More, please.

WTF is going on with Joe Flacco's moustache
I think it was a bet. The announcers said he is shaving after the season and that cannot wait.
ohhh

he’s got a Lemmystache

He's playing like he wants the season to be over, that's for sure
On an unrelated note

Yanda is just a beast

Funny, Adrian Clayborn tweeted about that, too.
C'mon Kelly don't let him ride you like that
Jesus, get the takedown already.
That was just stupid.
that was absurd
Man needs to learn how to get out from under

Ugh.

Yeah, that was not good.
Hopefully a good coaching chance for Kelly. He was close
Was he just blocked out for the bulk of the 3rd period?
For a while

Then there was some WILD scrambling for the last 30-40 seconds.

That was quite the scramble
Yeah

There were a bunch of near takedowns and near pins in there.

Damn exciting. Until Kelly lost.
14-6 Iowa after 5 matches
Strait bullshit
anyone watch this MC*22 Talk Sports?

looks EXTREMELY awful

I have. Only once. It was high school quality.
Metcalf being interviewed on MC22
oh shit

Metcalf on MC22

also a sack race

FUCK YEAH!

Oky St wasn't a sellout crowd?
According to Hlas, it was

Same attendance for BBall and Wrestling. BBall, they declared sellout, wrestling not (15,400 both times, the new standard).

I thought it was.

I’m pretty sure people were being turned away at the ticket office right before the meet.

So has everyone seen the Jesus Christ to Tim Tebow video?

It is one of the best things to come out of Late Nite tv in a long time.

Jimmy Fallon's work. Didn't help stop the Pats. But it was funny.
In case you haven't seen it

you must watch.

I want the Kobe System!

“you’re welcome”

Did Rob Brooks just say that Ferentz brings Gable in to speak to the team before games?
He's done it a few times, yeah.
The honorary captain usually speaks to the team before games.

Gable’s been honorary captain a few times, I know.

I see

I would love to listen to a speech by Gable. I’ve heard that he and Lou Holtz are two of the best sports figures to listen to.

Eh. Holtz? Let's keep it clean here
suckerin' suckatashhhhshhhhhshshshsshshh!
I'm not the world's biggest fan of him

but if you look at his resume, he was a pretty damn good coach and I think that motivation was his strong suit.

Agreed. He and ND bug me however.
I will miss watching Mark May fire him up every saturday

boy could he get under his skin intentionally and light a fire

Ray Lewis

still a pretty good tacklebacker

Crowd of 7500 there.
Does Iowa wrestling turn a profit?
So far as I know, nope
I thought I heard somewhere that it does

but only because their expenses are so small. I’m not very sure about that though.

I believe they make more off their camps and training sessions for youngsters during the offseason

…if there is an “offseason” in wrestling

I had heard that too

and that during Alford’s tenure he had a clause in his contract that guaranteed him so much camp money. Since his camps didn’t bring that much in they were dipping into the wrestling camp money to pay Alford so wrestling took their camps off campus in order to keep all the profits.

I don't think so

Their expenses aren’t huge, but they’re still big enough. And wrestling’s only source of revenue is ticket sales, unlike football and basketball (including women’s) that have bring in significant TV revenue

Moore looks overmatched in the early going here.
Moore is bloody
I miss DSJ
What is his status?

Didn’t Brands say before Midlands that DSJ could have wrestled if he needed to?

Sounds like he might be back for the Ohio State dual next week
Andy Hamilton of Iowa City PC

said that he expects him back by the end of this month… I’d say next week is a good bet. Sooner the better.

the rumors are that he will come back next weekend

and they arent new rumors either, so we will probably see him then

Fuck. Saved by the Bell
At first I didn't notice the period in that sentence and I was about to get angry.
AC Slater should've been a Hawk.
I owe uh Zach ten bucks.

Could you loan it to me?

Didn't he have issues with wrestling being too hard at Cal?
Yes

turns out high school wrestling in California isn’t very intense.

He received inappropriate benefits from Mr. Carosi at his summer job

and the NCAA banned him for life.

he also quit temporarily to take up cooking

if i remember correctly

Moore is way overmatched.
This guy is aggressive.

I think DSJ would have trouble with him.

He's good

But DSJ beat him three times last year.

I see.

I suppose it’s easier to be aggressive when you’re that much better than your opponent.

Welch got invited to wrestle at Midlands when he was in high school
Moore is still battling

which is nice to see.

Well at least he didn't get tech falled or pinned.
And he didn't have to turtle up at the end of the match in order to avoid the tech.
Yeah.

He kept fighting.

I hate to be Negative Nancy

…but I’m not real comfortable with how it’s going right now

C'mon, Evans.
Evans may have become my favorite wrestler to watch other than McD.
Ramos

and MM when he’s on are hard to beat.

Today all 3 looked like champions
Fuck the contact

I don’t need to see you to pin you.

Anybody know off the top of their head

whens the last time an Iowa wrestler was pinned or tech’d in a dual? feels like it’s been awhile… I know Moore was put down twice at Midlands if I recall, but I can’t remember the last dual whipping

Doing some recon for Hamilton's live chat?

I can’t remember any

it perked my attention that's for sure

doesn’t it feel like it’s been forever since we’ve been bullied? i mean, not that I’m complaining

I don't know.

It’s been quite a while, I think

It's got to be exhausting being ridden by Evans.

I love it.

MC22 needs to mic the Brands bros
That would be fantastic.
They probably don't want to deal with any FCC fines
It seems like Evans should have been cutting him and working on the tech.
Wanted the fall

So that’s okay.

yeah this for some reason it seems guys just aren't having that killer instinct

bonus points are HUGE, not just now but at nationals too… that’s what worries me come tourney time, we don’t go balls to the wall all the time like teams of the past (08, 09, 10)

Maybe

But he’s a lot better on the mat than on his feet so I feel better with him trying to turn him for NF points or get a fall

Yeah. I mean, he won 11-0

Evans had an equal shot of getting a TF from backs and from cut and release, I think.

I guess I'm a new-school Brands product then

I just think if you’re gonna win 11-0, and not get bonus points, why not go for the 15 and get it… so what if you give up a few points in return for going for it, you’d just get the 3 points you were originally getting for winning the match anyways

Well, he DID have a major

So we’re talking the difference between 6 or 5 when deciding whether to try to turn or go fishing (and going fishing is the lower-probability move for evans; he’s not montell).

He got a major (4 pts)

He could have cut him and tried for a tech, but he would have needed 4 more takedowns to do it. I think he was better off trying for the fall. He’s still not great on his feet

Realistically he could probably have gotten 3 takedowns and kept him down.

The more I think about it he probably went about it the right way though. He was just about as likely to get the points by turning him, plus this gave him more time to work him for the pin.

Did he have back points previously?

If not, and he just cuts and downs him, he still gets 4 points.

He needed to turn the kid to get 5 no matter what.

Yes, Evans had back points.

Half of his points were NF points, I think.

Nice job, Evans

18-10 Iowa now, 3 matches to go.

This is a lot tighter that I would like
Yeah.

The telford and kelly losses were killers.

Brands not happy

I think he’s upset that Lofthouse let up on the edge of the mat and they weren’t out of bounds yet.

Lofthouse sluggish
You need a macro for that.
I agree.

Munster seems to be getting the better of him on the tie-ups.

good control there by lofthouse
Very nice ride here.
Lofthouse rides out the entire 2nd period.

Masterful.

2 here would be huge
And there it is.
TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Who is the guy doing commentary with Brooks on MC22?
Cornell College's head wrestling coach, IIRC
Rob Koll
thx

Went to grad school with Izzo and Mariuchi

He's pretty good.

I still love listening to Ironside on the radio though.

if only the radio wasn
t waaaaaaaaay ahead of the tv

also i dont know wtf happened there

Yeah, Ironside-Grace are 10-15 seconds ahead

Kind of annoying

I just looked him up

He’s actually Cornell University’s head wrestling coach. Interesting.

He is not an Iowa fan

Koll ran a campaign last year to chastise Iowa about missing the National Duals. The guy is a dweeb.

Nice win, EL
yeah. would have liked to see more, but.

Now we just need to avoid getting pinned, dq’d or defaulted twice.

revenge for Midlands correct?
That's what they said on MC22

apparently Munster beat him pretty good at Midlands.

Yeah.

Munster beat him solidly at Midlands, so it was good to get revenge.

that'll just about lock up a W
Defense has totally taken over this AFC game.
that goal line stand was redic
And as soon as I mention Yanda being a beast

he gives up 2 sacks

Informal tally of warnings since the OSU dual

Iowa, 1. Iowa opponents, 30.

Didn't Marion get two within about a ten second span against Nebraska?
proceeded by a TD i believe
they seemed to happen at the same time

very strange

Informal tally
I know.

It just came to mind because I wasn’t watching that one all that closely and my buddy mentioned it to me last night. He said is was a pretty shitty call.

Now that you mention I do recall.

They were malarkey

Kellogg went to Sioux City North

boooooo

WBB update

Iowa 49, Purdue 52 with 3:57 left.

damn they are hard to figure out

often seem like they could be very very good, but don’t have the record to show for it. Hopefully they can find a way in WL.

love the aggressiveness at the end to try for a major
(insert long burst of horn section prior to playing In Heaven There is no Beer here)
♫bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Slow start for Vinnie, but he got it going by the end.

Wish he could have gotten the major, but oh well. Good effort.

Iowa up 24-10 This one is done and dusted.

Just like football
The student section started that chant at the basketball game yesterday.

I was just glad not to hear the overrated chant, I hate the overrated chant.

I love all good natured taunting chants.
Ironside wants Schoen to play football.
Gambrall gets warned.

Damn it Grant, get going.

we can get called for stalling too?
"Gambrall gets a deserved stalling call"

Ouch.

True, but ouch.

C'mon Brooks.

Big Ten home dual winning streak? Weak.

In other news, Iowa hasn’t lost a dual where the weather is under 35 degrees outside since 1997.

Iowa wrestles outside?

/derp

ok, this whole "road winning streak" thing needs to stop.

it’s like a great big consolation prize iowa fans couldn’t care less about

Come the fuck on Gambrall.
Women up 1 with 37 seconds left
Gambrall, GET WITH THE PROGRAM
I'm starting to think Brands needs to just step in and tell Gambrall to go back to 184.
I don't think that's going to happen this year.

If he was going down to 184 this year, it would have happened. I’m guessing there are health reasons that Gambrall is staying here. Staying here doesn’t do him or the team any favors.

Eustice was saying that there's no way

He’s at or above 200, day-to-day. There’s barely time for it, even if he wanted to. Cutting is so hard on your body that you have to make other sacrifices sometimes. Concussions are no joke. Just ask kyle anson.

I see.

I had heard that he’s weighing in at 187. Can’t remember who the person telling me’s source was.

Schoen needs to be warned now.
So close. 197 & 149 need some film session from today
Maybe do that before the last 30 seconds, Grant
I love Tom Brands

“I’m not feeling too impressed right now.”

Brands: not impressed.
Brands: "not impressive"

“not feeling too impressed right now”

"this is a bad interview"

lol

“This is a bad interview. This is a bad time for an interview.”

Tom Brands is pissed.

24-13 is the final score
"This is a bad interview" - Tom Brands

No one keeps it real-er

Take care of business like we're supposed to against tOSU

then bring on the Nittanys

I can't believe Brands is that pissed.

Gambrall was pathetic, but other than that I didn’t think we wrestled too bad.

I didn’t see McD’s match and it sounds like Brands isn’t very happy about that one.

he probably isnt that happy with Telford or Kelly either
Tom walked over to Blake after the HWT match and said something.

I will not be surprised if he gets the nod at OSU.

Blake wasn't impressive at all the last time he saw the mat.

I think Brands will let Telford work through these issues. Everyone he’s lost to in this stretch is (or would be) a ranked opponent.

Maybe just something as simple as "you've got an opportunity this week"

motivation and whatnot, with the added bonus being that it pushes the top guy too.

I think Gambrall really REALLY pissed brands off
IOWA NEEDS ALL OF THE POINTS
Ed Reed is a bad, bad man.
you could hear the crowd yell REEEEEEEEEEEEEEED as the ball was in mid-air

saw that pick coming from a mile away… I tell ya what though, if Houston had Schaub in there, they might’ve won this game

Agreed.

If they keep this team together they’ll be tough to beat next year.

Yeah.

The Baltimore offense wasn’t too impressive

aaaaand Baltimore just sewed it up
The home team has won every game so far this postseason.

How often does that happen?

this bodes well for the packers
Baltimore vs NE will be a good matchup.

I kind of wish it could be played in Baltimore, just because I think it’s a better environment for a football game.

Ironside on PSU last year:

“We snuck in there and stole their ponies”

hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

refresh me: is that duel in State College or IC?
State College

which seems weird considering we wrestled there last year too.

Scheduling quirk

Adding Nebraska meant redoing the schedules.

Yeah. we were at jNW last year, too.
I'm cool with it...

as long as OkieState comes back to IC next year then too

Ha, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Without looking at the lineups for next year

the home dual against PSU next year could be even better than this year’s Oky St meet.

This year's Iowa-jNW dual was at Carver.
Ah. I should have figured there weren't 7k iowa fans in chicago. :)
I see.

Next year should be good with PSU, Minny and ISU all coming to Carver.

Half-assed police work and defense

that’s what Baltimore does.

Yates gets one last chance here maybe...

c’mon kid.

I will not stand for any shit talking of Jimmy McNulty
If this was Jim Harbaugh instead of John, I think he might go for it here.

Or fake it.

This just got a lot more interesting.
That ball hit Walter in the arm.
Ow, hope Ed Reed isn't seriously hurt.
Not good for Edward Reed
KOK for new Houston OC!
A couple of interesting calls at the end.

I’ve been seeing more and more teams lineup like Baltimore did on their 3 and <1 with the running fullback lined up behind the running back and the running back offset, but I can’t figure out why the fuck you wouldn’t just lineup in the I formation and let your guys do their normal jobs.

Well I've been wrong on basically everything in the playoffs but I finally got one right.

I bet Baltimore to win on the moneyline and Houston to cover +9.

Oh shit.

Indiana at Ohio St on CBS next. I would almost rather watch that than the football game.

That is not the way to make a tackle

NY up 10-3

shoot, Gambrall's concussion/apparent insanity probably killed our title hopes this year
I don't know that this is true at all.

There isn’t a team in the country that worries me going into the national tournament. You just cannot tell how these guys will be wrestling in March. Iowa has as good of a chance as anyone. They need to work hard to qualify all ten.

Iowa needs to use PSU's blueprint from last year.

We need McD, Ramos, Marion, and DSJ to make the finals. Then we need some decent runs out of Evans, Lofthouse, and Telford. Anything we get out of Kelly, Wagner, and Gambrall will be gravy, IMO.

So much of it is going to come down to matchups with Evans, Lofthouse, and Telford. I think if McD, Ramos, and Marion simply wrestle to their capabilities, they’ll be fine and go far. That’s possibly true with DSJ as well, but I want to see how he does against some decent competition this year before I hop fully on that bandwagon. But the other guys are going to need to get some luck with the draw — and probably a few upsets as well.

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